Above Ground/Semi-Portable Pond Quest

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yogurt_21

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Now many of you probably weren't around a few years ago when I had what ended up being a 9000 gallon pond (19'Lx9'Wx7'D). I started out smaller and as I had liner issues (stupid gophers), steadily built it bigger and bigger.
Unfortunately I eventually ran into financial issues and had to let the house and the pond go. (bastards that bought it filled it in with dirt, I dug that by Hand you jerks! It was concrete when I left it! You could have easily used it! Sigh...)

Anyways enough of the back story. I rent a house from my parents now (they call it my mom's retirement fund since she doesn't work anymore) and it has a nice cordoned off area of the yard to the right side of a backyard pool. There was a small tree in the center of it which I removed a month ago due to frost getting the better of it. I was looking at the metal framed intex/heritage pools as a base for the pond. The advantages of this are 1. removable 2. already setup including skimmer basket/plumbing 3. large enough for most pond fish and 4. above ground so no run off to leach whatever's in the soil into my pond. Due to the odd shape of the area I think a 12' round would be ideal; as much as I would love a 15' x 4' I don't think it will fit all too well in the area I have.

I still have the pump and much of the filter material from the original pond. Unfortunately due to mr gopher digging holes where he doesn't belong I don't have the original epdm liner but I will want something to protect the pool liner. I was thinking that since the pool liner would essentially be the water proofing layer and the metal frame and ground cover protect it on the bottom and sides respectively I would just need a protective inner layer. Something to keep the fish/decor from poking holes. To me such a protective layer wouldn't need to be 400$ like the required epdm liner would cost. Perhaps just a second pool liner might do it. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Heritage-20-Gauge-Vinyl-Replacement-Pool-Liner-for-12-Round-Pools/14003632
Or I've used construction grade tarps in the past (ones without the mildew resistance) They aren't always 100% waterproof but I never use them for that. The pool liner is the water proofing, the tarp would be the puncture resistant layer.

As with all my builds this will be a diy/on the cheap setup. The primary goal is to give my Plecos a much bigger home (they're too big for the 125 they're in currently) but also koi and any other monsters that tickle my fancy. In the past my pond in the summer would house pacu, gourami, koi, oscars, and various others. In the winter, I'd bring the tropicals inside to be housed in 3 100+ gallon tanks. This time I have a semi-detached dude room. I was thinking a little inflatable pool with a secondary puncture layer could house the tropicals in the winter. I still have a 125 and a 100g just in case but really as a 2-3month a year thing and at 24$ a pop if it breaks, I'm not all that concerned about the inflatable thing.

Now for the pool itself.

The intex is cheaper (obviously) but heritage has a feature on its 12' and 15' rounds that is getting my attention, especially since an above ground limits viewing.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Heritage-Round-12-x-36-Metal-Walled-Swimming-Pool/3163944
Of course the run here is that the 15' is only 3$ more than the 12' while offering ~1400 more gallons and 60+ sqft of swim room. But again I don't think a 15' will fit. I'll have to measure to be sure. But the port hole is really getting my attention. I'm just not so sure it's worth the price difference. An intex 12' x 2.5' is 150$ for the set. Which far better fits my on the cheap budget. But dang a viewing window, even small sounds nice.

I'll keep this updated As I get pieces in. I need to do some work on the ground, remove a stump, get the filter setup and check it for leaks, issues after sitting for a while. I expect to be fully operational by june. So We'll see how it goes. This is really just a teaser at this point.
 
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a couple of bad pics at night of the area I'm looking at. I measured it last night and actually I think a 15' would fit, my tape is stretched at 15' in the pics. There are two walkways I was worried about encroaching on but when I measure it out it doesn't seem like I would have to at all. At most I'd encroach on the walkway the orange tape measure is sitting on by a few inches, being its a 2.5' wide walkway that's not so bad. You can see the stump I have to take out and I'll have to do some leveling work but overall I think it'll be fine.

As for the liner, I think I'll just double up with an overlay pool liner, that'll give me two 25 gauge (~22mil) layers which while still inferior to a 45 mil epdm, the liners still come with a 20 year warranty. A heavy duty tarp is typically 10 mil, so less than half the thickness of the overlay liner while being only a few dollars cheaper and requiring either an overlap or having to be cut since it's square rather than round. I checked into the billboard liner setup (posted in the indoor pond forum) and again only a few dollars cheaper (not counting shipping), thinner (15-17mil), and square so also requiring cutting. Plus on the site, they seemed pretty happy about it lasting 8 years, stating 3-5 years on average...lol

http://www.poolfly.com/poolfly.asp?...m=above_ground_pool_liner_options.asp&size=15

apparently walmart's not the cheapest at everything, their site did make it easier to find the item I wanted though.

The pool set I'm looking at is currently 200$
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Summer-Es...ool-with-Deluxe-Kit/19340400?findingMethod=rr
I'm also thinking of picking up some 1/8" wall foam to give the liners extra protections on the sides (as a reference, a mil is 1/1000th of an inch so a 45mil epdm liner is only .045 inches thick, this insulation will be 3 times as thick)
The pool set comes with the ground cover for below protection as well as a top cover I can throw on during storms/winter months.

so 200$ for the pool + 70$ for the second liner + 35$ for the wall foam = on the cheap for sure.
The pump I'm using is the Anjon Monsoon MS6100, it does 6100gph at 5' of head while drawing ~ 500 watts (typically less)
I'll be plugging into the plumbing on the sidewalls as I have adapters already to take the 2" outlet down to the standard pool pump hose.

Still though first thing first, remove the sump and level the ground.

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lol while that would be easier, it's been expressively forbidden by the landlords (ie my parents who can give me far more hell than any other landlord could).

Besides that thing would need quite a bit of work to convert. Work I'd rather put into something I can take with me when we eventually move (don't plan on being renters forever)

anyways said pool took up most of my weekend, dang thing was filled with leaves which were clogging the sweeper. I had to net them out by hand...not fun.

Should have more progress next weekend
 
Wow. I didn't know there was grass in Arizona. huh......



BTW... I was there for the digging....
 
^ we have alot of things in the winter.lol

Ironically the grass on the other side is dead, been contemplating a sod cutter to move from the side where the pool will be (which will kill it anyways) to the side my kids playset is on.
 
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I've been very busy with work and haven't had much time for almost anything. I did order the pool for my Bday in june but didn't get it setup until this past weekend. I can tell you that my pleco's are much happier now, their 2 year stay in an aquarium didn't suit them near as well as a pond. I've started to see them revert to more default behavior like when doing maintenance/changes in the pond I can be less than an inch from them and they just look at me like "no YOU move". Compare then to trying to do anything in the 125 and seeing them instantly run to the other side of the tank.

So I went a bit bigger than I had planned, it's an 18' round x 3.5' deep. It's currently filled to ~ the 3ft level, maybe a little over that seems to be just under 6000 gallons. In the pics you see my primitive "get this up real quick" filter box. I'll load up pics later of my current solution which is my 5 foot 100 gallon tank elevated using tiles (lots of them) to give a water feature/filterbox/shallow planting area. Right now it houses 2 20" Plecos, one 13" Oscar and sadly now 1 8" Jack Dempsey...there were 2 JD's but my primitive setup had a 2" inlet...I stupidly thought a 3 year old fish would be smart enough to stay away. :(

I've reverted to the pumps grill now and it runs pipe to the bottom of the 100g tank which is covered by media and then tile to hold the media in place. Half of the media is sponsored half is new. Based on the bioload for the amount of water, everything's working out. I've also added a bunch of sponsored biomedia into the skimmer box on the side of the pool. Overall it seems to be going well. The only concern right now is temperature. Without cover it's a little warm (~82) I'm hoping that adding cover will help reduce that.

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