I am working today have a large pond in my basement and always wanted a tiger shovel nose. What tank makes can you safely have? I plan on stocking this with arowana,knives, black wolf, large bar sd, large cichlids etc. will these become a meal?
Adult TSN tankmates
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The tankmates will need to be double the size of the tsn. Are you considering adding a Clown Knife?
Depends which species of TSN you get.. The most common P. fasciatum will stay the smallest and be less able to eat assorted tank mates. They max out around 28-30” or so in captivity. P. Tigrinum & P. Reticulatum will hit 34-36” range and the king of TSN P. corruscans will hit 4’+…
IME they are alot less prone of being tank mate eaters than rtc or hybrids but the tables kinda turn a bit once there around 34”+ range. I had a 34” P. Retic that easily took down several 12”-16” P. Bass and other smaller TSN 16-18” it lived with for yrs. Thats my only “bad apple” tho from a group of 17 that were majority fasciatum. All 18-34” housed together in a 17’ pool in my younger yrs of keeping with gar, bass, aros, assorted cats, pacu etc…
long rant short lol… ull b ok for many yrs until the tsn is around its max size. If all ur fish list is max size also will most likely have no problems there either. If ur starting all together grow the aros and knives out first as those will be the easiest meals for a tsn to slurp right down.
IME they are alot less prone of being tank mate eaters than rtc or hybrids but the tables kinda turn a bit once there around 34”+ range. I had a 34” P. Retic that easily took down several 12”-16” P. Bass and other smaller TSN 16-18” it lived with for yrs. Thats my only “bad apple” tho from a group of 17 that were majority fasciatum. All 18-34” housed together in a 17’ pool in my younger yrs of keeping with gar, bass, aros, assorted cats, pacu etc…
long rant short lol… ull b ok for many yrs until the tsn is around its max size. If all ur fish list is max size also will most likely have no problems there either. If ur starting all together grow the aros and knives out first as those will be the easiest meals for a tsn to slurp right down.
Actually eyeing the albino marble. Any thoughts on their adult size
Ty
Tsn don’t seem to be a big fish eater in my experience. Yes when little with small fish but mine is around 2ft and lives with 9” barbs and many 8” synodontis (being the smallest fish in with him), although not sure if it means something, but he is raised on pellets. Royal and clown knifes I would expect to be fine, black ghost not so much.
Agree with others that you will need to grow the other fish first, especially Arros, cichlid, etc.
not the fish eaters like rtc but don’t rule it out, if it fits, it could go!
Agree with others that you will need to grow the other fish first, especially Arros, cichlid, etc.
not the fish eaters like rtc but don’t rule it out, if it fits, it could go!
IMO the man made marbles/albino are going be the most bred that is P. Fasciatum so id guess 28-30” max size range.
Good news on the pond. IME TSN are rather predictable - if a tank mate doesn't fit in their mouth, they are ignored. The cats estimate the prey size by eyesight it seems mostly but can go by trial and error sometimes. Another thought is that it is not uncommon for a predator to be enticed by flat fish such as knives and silver dollars (rays?). Although this is more typical of perch and bass, I'd keep it in mind for cats too, e.g., pseudopims are known to bend and roll up their prey to enable the swallowing.
thank you for the info. I have other setups for the rays
What do you think about adding a fire eel or any of the large growing swamp eels?
This setup will have black aros, leichardti aros, royal knives and maybe my pom pom knife ( but worry he might be too small)