Sorry I dont have any shell-Cichlids and dont live in Southern Cal but I will check with some friends in Anaheim who might. I too would like to have them. From your avatar it looks like your saying emo's are hatefilled, meth-addicted, psychopaths that end up committing suicide after causing the deaths of millions of their own people (Ive never been into emo.....but Ive never really thought of them as haters).