aftermath after whitespot

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en71ce

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ok so woke up this morning and my jardini is dead...

i know its white spot because my bass in the QT tank had it too (now he is cured and healthy).

so I have a 120g tank with no inhabitants but white spot !!

what do i do? empty the tank? but then i'd have to re-do the whole cycle process... but i guess its safer than assuming the whitespots are dead...

what do you do after whitespot infection on your main tank??
 
The parasites cannot survive without a host for more than 24 hours. We have a sticky for these parasites. Here's the info.

White Spot Disease
Synonyms:

Ich, Ick

Symptoms:
Early signs of white spot begin when fish flick themselves against rocks. They may also swimming in an odd behaviour as if they were trying to use the water to wash away an irritation. Some of the more common causes are stress, bad water conditions, live food that have been infected by the pathogens or already infected fish without quarantining it.

Description:
Ich is a protozoal infection that afflicts fish and can rapidly kill them, most often by damaging gill tissue. It is highly infectious and potentially lethal and manifests as tiny white spots all over the fish. The spots are no larger than grains of salt. The wide host range of this parasite is its life cycle, and speed of multiplication especially in a tropical aquarium. When you see the white spot on your fish, it is already too late for those ich particles to be avoided.

The organisms, trophonts goes through a life cycle of a small white spot feeding on your fish which drops off to the floor of your tank and encases itself in a cyst called tomont. While encased in a cyst, it divides into up to 2000 new mobile organisms called theronts. The cyst then ruptures, thus releasing the theronts which seek out a host to feed into. They must locate a host within 24 hours otherwise they will die. Only the mobile stage is vulnerable to treatments.

Ich will appear if the fish is stressed. Note that it acts more as a 'contaminant' and is not part of the tank's ecosystem. Any new fish should be quarantined for 2-4 weeks. Failing that will increase the risk of introducing diseases which wil affect other occupants. New fish are always possible carriers of diseases.

Treatment:
Salt
Increase the temperature to at least 84-86 degrees as much as the fish can tolerate. Add aquarium or table salt (dissolved in water) at a ratio of 2 teaspoons of salt per gallon of water in your tank. While waiting, it does not hurt to add a powerhead or airstone to increase the oxygen level. Over the first couple days, your fish will appear worse and will eventually recover as the treatment progresses. In most cases, ich will disappear on the sixth day. However, there is still a probability that some cysts have not yet ruptured so it is advisable to keep the treatment up for full ten days.

If you are not able to raise the temperature at all, you need to extend the treatment. At 85 degrees Fahrenheit, the life cycle of ich is quicker. The colder the temperature, the slower the life cycle thus the treatment will extend even longer than required.

Unfortunately many plants do not do well with this salt treatment and may appear to be failing but will usually come back in time. Removing them to a salt free environment after a thorough rinsing may save them, however they must be kept at the high temperature as well. When the cyst breaks up in the plant holding tank, the small parasites will be unable to find a host and will die within 24-48 hours. Ich is easily transferred to other fish tanks so do not share nets, heaters and wet hands between infected and non infected tanks. Fish in treatment appear to do better with a reduced feeding regimen.

When you look into a fish store's aquarium, their fish may appear healthy without any signs of disease. Ask how long the fish have been in the store and when the last time new fish were added to that tank. If it has been 2 weeks or more, your chances of getting disease free fish is high.

Clown loaches and young oscars are notorious for getting ich after they are transferred to your tank. These and many others can tolerate salt. If you are unsure about your fish’s tolerance for salt, be sure to look for answers in a reference book or ask an expert.

A salt test kit available at your local fish store will help you get the exact dosage. Something in the range of .2%, is where you want to be.

Other Treatments:
Malachite Green, Formalin

Authors:
Anythingfish
ChileRelleno
guppy
SkepticalAquarist.com
Tokis-Phoenix

Discussion Thread:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/fo...ad.php?t=20681
 
I dont mind saying Lupin!! that was a poor response!! you would be aswell telling them GO GOOGLE IT!!!

Personally if it was me i would still treat the whole tank and put the heat up as you would normally..i.e with fish in it.... and basically go through the normal procedure of water changing and gravel vac to pic up free swimming parasites,It would save emptying the tank and losing all the bacteria in the filters,etc,,,,,,

I would not use the salt method if your not that expierenced,much much safer to use the bottled medication,as it tells you exactly how much to dose etc,,, With your next lot of fish they may not tolerate any SALT residue left if its not all diluted!! Goodluck....

Just on the basis that adding salt may be a scary kinda process if new fishkeepers have to do this lol
 
lupin so you're saying that if i leave the tank running for a week without inhabitants it will be clear of ich/whitespot?? i don't have to do anything else??
 
en71ce;2313677; said:
lupin so you're saying that if i leave the tank running for a week without inhabitants it will be clear of ich/whitespot?? i don't have to do anything else??
Like I said earlier, the ich cannot survive without a host for a long time. Leaving for a week will guarantee there will be no more parasites. Besides ich does not have dormant stages as often mentioned.
 
fishtycoon;2313583; said:
I dont mind saying Lupin!! that was a poor response!! you would be aswell telling them GO GOOGLE IT!!!
I encourage everyone to read stickies just as much as ask around the forums. Experiences and opinions are poured in sticky threads which is entirely different from google where you get several results leading to confusion.;)
 
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