What are some real opinions on this?Its hard because you usually only see demos and the guys are rolling with the moves but if they didnt they would get broken bones or dislocations.Yet how do you pull these moves on someone who is way stronger than you and lets say as fight smart.Im a good fighter and wanted to get into a martial art form,along with some sword stuff.Looks like aikido is a good way for me to re injure my shoulder though,do they know how to watch for stuff like that?I just want a true martial art form,not for sport but more for mind body spirit reasons.Self defense yes but not to run around kickin everyones butt for no reason,lol.I have no interest in JJ.Boxing and I guess my own judo style are my strong points but I want to zone in on something I can claim you know.
Aikido
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Aikido is something you would do for fun. I am sure you they could watch out for any injuries just let them know before you start. But as far as getting broken bones and dislocating stuff i highly doubt it. I highly doubt you could pull many of there throws with someone resisting. You say you do Judo which means you do Tachi-waza some newaza so you should know how difficult it is when someone resisting you. Or did you just start judo?
Aikido is based on the same principles as Judo, which as you know means the gentle way. The problem with judo though is that a lot of people substitute strength for skill. Aikido focuses on getting the technique perfect. I have fought a few aikido guys and the thing that stands out from other martial arts is how long it takes to get good. Guys that have been doing it a few years are easily battered but the guys that have been doing it for 20 are a different kettle of fish, they are good. Contrast that with Muay Thai, a guy doing 8 months hard training is going to be a tough fight, but a guy thats done it for 20 isnt going to be much tougher...
Im not taking judo,I just meant when I fight,I mainly train on bags with a kick boxing style and the rest of what I use in a fight is closest to judo style.Im 6 foot 2 and 240 not fat.Its not easy for average guys to get me down.Im fast and very strong in striking power I just thought I would find something to practice more and feel a conection with other cultures,and meditive reasons.Dont get me wrong here though,Im usaly the one stopping fights since nobody ever really calls me out.I dont start them either unless crap really hits the fan.Thanks for the info guys.
jason longboard;1985433; said:
western boxing with tae kwon do kicking...then in close some type of grappling
but that is about winning rather than mind body
or its hard to beat a trained armed opponent with any open hand style
really depends what you goals are........
jason longboard;1983788; said:
jason longboard;1985430; said:
So basically what you saying is you have a judo style but have never formally trainied judo
. Ok Keyboard warrior
Personally as someone who has been doing martial arts for years that is very offensive to claim you have a style but have never actually trained it. Why dont you go to your local Judo club and tell them you have a judo style and see how well you do keyboard warrior.
Aikido is about not hurting your opponent...though it looks like, I don't believe that Aikido throws, properly executed, will dilocate joints or break bones...I guess a wierd fall could, though.
As far as effective martial arts technique, I think that people will agree that no one martial art has everything.
I personally believe that the most effective "street" aresenal you can have is a knowledge of both Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu technique. Muay Thai teaches you to strike and get close (clinching) for a finish with a knee or, if the fight does go to the ground (and almost always does), BJJ takes over from there.
This is of course assuming the fight is one on one - anyone who's ever been in a bar or street scuffle knows that people just start coming out of the woodwork when ish goes down. I train Muay Thai and while we primarily focus on ring competition, our Kru occasionally arranges drills that simulate real world self-defense application of MT technique - we're not being encouraged to fight - but just how to use our skills in a real situation if we need to. Luckily I haven't had to test these skills for real but I'm pretty confident that I could hold my own against your average bar idiot, or at least steer off taking any significant damage until it gets broken up. How many drunk dudes would expect a teep in the face or a knee to the diaphram as they start to throw a punch?
As far as effective martial arts technique, I think that people will agree that no one martial art has everything.
I personally believe that the most effective "street" aresenal you can have is a knowledge of both Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu technique. Muay Thai teaches you to strike and get close (clinching) for a finish with a knee or, if the fight does go to the ground (and almost always does), BJJ takes over from there.
This is of course assuming the fight is one on one - anyone who's ever been in a bar or street scuffle knows that people just start coming out of the woodwork when ish goes down. I train Muay Thai and while we primarily focus on ring competition, our Kru occasionally arranges drills that simulate real world self-defense application of MT technique - we're not being encouraged to fight - but just how to use our skills in a real situation if we need to. Luckily I haven't had to test these skills for real but I'm pretty confident that I could hold my own against your average bar idiot, or at least steer off taking any significant damage until it gets broken up. How many drunk dudes would expect a teep in the face or a knee to the diaphram as they start to throw a punch?