Just got a nice rtc. He is about 14" and has the redest tail I"ve ever seen. I went to the lfs to see a large bichar. It wasn' big enough for me, but they had this rtc I was reluctant knowing how much they eat and how big they get. I got back to my store and couldn't resist calling back to find out how much. The lady said $35. I had her repeat it a couple times. Couldn't resist. She said he ate too much and needed the tank. I probably set my self up to set up a BIG tank. Can't resist the big guys. This tank is probably done, being 72"x36"x24" with a 26' sn, a 10" marble, an 18" Jardini, and now the 14" rtc.