almost a water question. turned obituary

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While I was typing up a new thread, questioning why the water in my 125g African cichlid tank was hazy, only after four days since my last water change, my wife came into the computer room to tell me that there was a dead fish. I asked her in which tank, because I just did a 50% water change about 10 minutes ago in the African tank in an attempt to hedge against what ever was going on with the water. Sure enough, a very dead yellow lab was laid out. It must have been stuck behind some rocks, for awhile. I have only one of kind fish in that tank, so it is easy to tell if one is missing, except for the yellow labs. I had eight. So, as I was doing a fish count, I did not notice a yellow lab missing. I commented during the water change that the water smelled fishy. ha-ha, I mean like a bad fishy.

Should I do another water change tomorrow? or just wait the normal 7 day schedual that I have for that tank?

So any way, this thread started off as a water question and turned into an obituary.
 
Stinky water....are you overfeeding? Gravel vac? How often?
 
bigspizz;857068; said:
Stinky water....are you overfeeding? Gravel vac? How often?

Did you even read the post :screwy:

Test your water. if the readings come back high I would do another watechange today, if not I would just stick to your regiment having already done a 50% minutes before the fish was found.
 
Nova 8;857110; said:
Did you even read the post :screwy:

Test your water. if the readings come back high I would do another watechange today, if not I would just stick to your regiment having already done a 50% minutes before the fish was found.


Yes.....I did. Is over feeding, or detrus build up in gravel, not a culprit for stinky water?....I would not do 50% changes regularly. Fish tolerate small more freq changes over a big one any day. Do 10% every day till things are better.
 
Nova 8;857110; said:
Did you even read the post :screwy:

Test your water. if the readings come back high I would do another watechange today, if not I would just stick to your regiment having already done a 50% minutes before the fish was found.



And if one dead yellow lab can make a whole tank smell to the point that it is an issue. It has been way too long between fish counts. Stinky water=bad water changing habits, not bad but not effective.....I am reading the right post........right?
 
Bigspizz, I am sorry for offending you, its just the way you worded it seemed to me that you hadn't read the post at all.
I do not find it to unbelievable that a 5" fish rotting away in a tank for what I assume is weeks could easily give the tank a foul smell and hazy look. Better observations of the tank is obviously in order.
 
Nova 8;857231; said:
Bigspizz, I am sorry for offending you, its just the way you worded it seemed to me that you hadn't read the post at all.
I do not find it to unbelievable that a 5" fish rotting away in a tank for what I assume is weeks could easily give the tank a foul smell and hazy look. Better observations of the tank is obviously in order.

No offense taken man!...I am just tryin to imagin exactly how long it would take for that to happen....No way, that would take weeks but what killed the fish? I would notice an ornament was slightly shifted an inch or so. I guess I am a lil unrealistic but no way does it seem possibe to not notice a missing CHILD for weeks. If it was just the fish...you could sterolize the tank. A dead fishes' toxins (I know that was also worded funny) is no beuno!
 
Yeah I dont get how you could miss it aswell, as soon as I look at my tank I know where all the fish are and if anything is astray.
When a mate of mine started out he had tetras, about 150 of them all different types, neons, black widows, hockey stick, rummy nose and so on, about 10-15 different types. He would look at the tank and know if one was missing, to me it was just a mass of colour but he could account for every single fish.
 
Nova 8;857231; said:
Bigspizz, I am sorry for offending you, its just the way you worded it seemed to me that you hadn't read the post at all.
I do not find it to unbelievable that a 5" fish rotting away in a tank for what I assume is weeks could easily give the tank a foul smell and hazy look. Better observations of the tank is obviously in order.

When a fish dies of an internal bacterial infection, the gut cavity liquifies like ebola and then eats its way through the cavity wall. I have had this happen several times. The fish will have a quarter inch sized hole in its side and no innards. It spills into the tank and causes the ammonia to skyrocket.

The other fish are in grave danger at this point. The water needs to be changed frequently. If signs of bacterial infection occur in the other fish, such as frayed fins or red spots, medications should be started immediately.
 
CHOMPERS;857253; said:
When a fish dies of an internal bacterial infection, the gut cavity liquifies like ebola and then eats its way through the cavity wall. I have had this happen several times. The fish will have a quarter inch sized hole in its side and no innards. It spills into the tank and causes the ammonia to skyrocket.

The other fish are in grave danger at this point. The water needs to be changes frequently. If signs of bacterial infection occur in the other fish, such as frayed fins or red spots, medications should be started immediately.


That is gross.....And how the heck do you know this? .....You can take your torch and put it right back in the case!:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
 
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