am i overstocking a 110 gallon?

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Hello I have a 110 gallon tank that currently has 2 blood parrots, 3 angelfish (2 boys 1 girl), and a convict. All of which are under 3 inches. Would it be ok for me to also get maybe 2 silver dollars, 2 severum (a gold and wild green), and a firemouth? And also right now I have a aquaclear 110. But I also want a canister filter I'm just unsure as to which brand to get and which would be best as in up to what gallons should I get it on? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated :)
 
Hello I have a 110 gallon tank that currently has 2 blood parrots, 3 angelfish (2 boys 1 girl), and a convict. All of which are under 3 inches. Would it be ok for me to also get maybe 2 silver dollars, 2 severum (a gold and wild green), and a firemouth? And also right now I have a aquaclear 110. But I also want a canister filter I'm just unsure as to which brand to get and which would be best as in up to what gallons should I get it on? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated :)

Not so much over stocked as mismatched stock. Don't put cons or fire mouths with angels both will tear into long flowing fins. As for the blood parrots I've found it's hit or miss but most will say don't put them with angels so don't do it. As for the servums they would be fine


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Just because Angels are cichlids, does not mean that they can survive with other aggressive cichlids. Angels are considered to be of a much more peaceful nature. Placing an aggressive cichlid such as a Convict with angels is a flat out BAD IDEA! I advise you to remove your angels or your convict ASAP.

I used to own angels and I had them in with a juvenile black ghost knife fish (55 gallon) and it only worked out for a few months until large bite chunks started to appear on my angels. My point is that even though a fish looks small, an aggressive nature versus a more passive nature will likely prevail every time.

I advise that you do a lot more research before acquiring anymore stock. It only takes one fish to ruin an aquarium.

As for you current stock. The Blood Parrots should be alright with the Convict in a 110 gallon. They usually can take a bit of a beating and provided they have territory, you are not going to have too many problems if any. You could add a firemouth, but they tend to dwell in cave systems, especially when more aggressive cichlids are around. Severums should work perfectly fine with a single convict and blood parrots. Silver Dollars are also a fine addition (Maybe acquire more than 2).

So if you remove the angels, you could certainly add 2 Severums and a firemouth.

However, if you prioritize your angels, the other alternative is to remove the convict and blood parrots and consider getting Discus fish. They can be tricky to take care of due to their essential water conditions, but they can live harmoniously with angels and they are splendid looking cichlids. You could also consider Rams and other small peaceful cichlids.

But this is MonsterFishKeepers and I recommend the larger aggressive American Cichlids :naughty:
 
i think if you can decide on SA or CA,your chances will be better.angels,sevs and 3 SD could work.but as said before angels might get picked on.for canisters i have used both fluval and eheim,but others are good too.i think you will want one rated for 200-300 GPH(or more)
 
However, if you prioritize your angels, the other alternative is to remove the convict and blood parrots and consider getting Discus fish. They can be tricky to take care of due to their essential water conditions, but they can live harmoniously with angels and they are splendid looking cichlids. You could also consider Rams and other small peaceful cichlids.

But this is MonsterFishKeepers and I recommend the larger aggressive American Cichlids :naughty:

I would advice against keeping discus with angels. The sole reason for this is not comparability or temperaments, but disease. Many angels are carriers for diseases that don't affect themselves or other angels, but can be lethal to discus, who are very sensitive fish.

As stated above, the con and blood parrots will destroy your angels. So rehoming someone is inevitable. Question is what do you want more, the parrots and con or the angels? If you decide to go angels, they can sometimes be kept very well with severum if the severum are raised around the angels from a small size (1-2"). Unfortunately, both the severums and firemouths will boil down to personality of the individual fish as to whether or not it can live happily with the angels. Some are angel killers and others will school with the angels. It's all luck of the draw.

My personal recommendation (not knowing how attached you are to any one fish/species) is to rehome the angels and add the 2 sevs and a firemouth.

If you decide to keep the angels, rehome the parrots and cons. Skip the firemouth. Give the sevs a try, but you may have to rehome someone down the road if they don't play. Start the sevs out small (1-2") and that should greatly help with aggression in months/years to come.

The silver dollars will work well no matter which route you take, but I advice getting at least 4 as they have a little bit of a social pecking order.

Out of curiosity, how do you know you have 2 male and 1 female angel? Angels are notoriously difficult to sex and even master angel breeders often don't know the sex of their angels until they see them breed.

As far as your canister filter question, I would recommend getting one of the top three name brands. Rena, eheim or fluval. All three make good solid products with warranties in case something doesn't work,like its suppose to. As far as size, the AC110 takes care of a lot of the work, so I would shoot for a canister rated for at least 50-60 gallons. Just remember you want the water to turn over 8-10 times in an hour, so you want your filters to have a combined flow of 880-1100 gallon per hour. If you can manager to fall within that set of numbers, your filtration will be fantastic.


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Thank you all. I had actually originally wanted an oscar and blood parrots but as soon as the tank cycled I went out nd ended up buying angelfish XD I guess I got overexcited since this is my 1st tank with cichlids after years of my 30 gallon with small livebearer fish. I'm only attached to one angelfish since its the only 1 that tries to get my attention whenever I come close to the tank but maybe I could put that 1 in the 30 gallon hexagon tank? Research led me to believe they'd be fine with firemouths and severums. Wasn't sure about blood parrots since they can't do much damage with their mouths not being able to close? There was a guy on youtube with birds in the backround who had 2 sketches of angelfish and explained how to tell them apart
 
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