Angelfish being bullied

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kqui9357

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My tank is 110 gallons. Currently has 3 angelfish (2 of which had nipped fins), 2 severums (1 wild nd 1 gold), 1 firemouth, 3 silver dollars, and 1 female convict. I'm unsure as to who the culprit is. Tank has been running 3 months after it cycled. there all small under 3 inches. The fish in the tank who the top dogs would definately be the wild severum and convict. The wild severum likes to go after the gold severum alooot. The firemouth leaves them alone and only intimidates the sev and con when they go near. I've also got a 30 gallon and 10 gallon I could put the convict in. This is my first time keeping cichlids of any kinds since I wanted to move up from tropical livebearers. I've done a lot of reasearch btw so I didn't just throw them in. Wasn't a lot of info on convicts online tho so I figured one alone would be fine. Any ideas on who's doing the bullying?
 
I put my money on con or firemouth. Cons single or not shouldn't be trusted around thing with long fins. Firemouths ime have a tendency to nip trailers.


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My bet would be on one angelfish or convict..i dont have experience with other fishes you have but i had both of them and both like bullying others..

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My question is how do other people have tanks with just angelfishes? I've heard of them fighting eachother but the fact that other people have an angelfish (in my research) only tank made me skeptical about them fighting eachother
 
Your angels are a little young to form a breeding pair but it is a possibility. When my angels paired they where especially hard on the other angelfish fish. 3 angels is not a good number because unless they are all the same sex somebody's odd man out


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In my opinion, angels are not a good match for any Central American cichlids.
Most Centrals, even including what I consider the most mild mannered Central Amer genus, Thorichthys (firemouths included), and especially convicts are much too aggressive to be with S American species like angels. There of coarse may be exceptions to the rule, but they are just that, exceptions.
Better choices would be other mild mannered (relatively speaking) S Americans, such as Cleithracara, or some of the other dwarf type.
 
It's most likely the firemouth or the convict.

Angels do nip and fight each other but almost every SA cichlid shows some level of conspecific aggression. You avoid that by keeping them in groups of six or more to spread out their aggression and making sure they have an adequately sized tank. If you only keep two or three angels you will have aggression issues more often than not.
 
Plenty of good info above. Agree on angels and most CAs a dicey combination at best. Agree in particular on convicts and angels not likely to work; to be honest I'd expect dead angelfish eventually. Firemouths risky with angels also, but I've seen them all over the map. Agree on 3 angels an iffy number. I'd qualify that and say it can work sometimes, depending on the individual fish, their temperament, gender, what else is in the tank, size of tank, etc. But there's also likely to be some bickering, not life threatening or anything as long as fish aren't seriously mismatched, but it can be incessant in some cases and can especially be stressful (therefore, ultimately detrimental) if two of three get along or are a pair and they gang up on the odd one out. Angels are more likely to get along better in groups or as compatible pairs, similar to discus.

Two things often fool people. One is that young, small fish of aggressive species can be a lot more docile when they're small than they're going to end up, which is why sometimes you see people say I've had (some bad combination) together for so many weeks or months and they've always been fine but all of a sudden fish "A" is harassing fish "B". The second thing is some fish keep a low profile until they get comfortable in their surroundings, after which their true aggression starts to come out. (Of course, there's also fish that want to fight everything in the tank from the minute you drop them in there. :naughty: )
 
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