Haha, why did you have to go and do that, the thought never would have crossed my mind. Really though thanks for the info, didn't know that. Care to elaberate on that? Any info would be appreciated. From the pictures I have seen of FOGO, they always seemed more of a type of orino. Whatever they are they are stunning, can't wait till they put a few more inches on. I was expecting spangled ocells when they were described to me but my jaw dropped when I saw them.