Yeah, probably. That is my only gripe about nascar these days. Everyone is afraid to rub. That went away when Sr. died. I race enduros, which is the cheapest circle track racing there is, but there is more action on the track at any one time than any other division. Thats the stuff I like, which is why it is my only problem with the pros now. I miss the old days where there was racers scrapping in the infield while the race stayed green.