Anyone have any complex hybrid projects going on???

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Tunaslayer

Jack Dempsey
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Not asking you to give up any of your secrets but would like to discuss about breeding project currently be worked on or even future projects or ideals

I have some what of a plan

Rio Grande Texas + Paratheraps zonatus Nandopsis Tetracanthus(cuban) + Caquetaia Umbriferus(blue umbee)

then take these hybrids and

Rio Grande Texas X Paratheraps zonatus + Nandopsis Tetracanthus(cuban) X Caquetaia Umbriferus(blue umbee)

maybe get a nice blue n green pearly fish with some nice white gunmetalish accents???? or maybe just get a frankeinstein, in the end left with a 4 fish in 1 combo.

Rio Grande Texas X Paratheraps zonatus X Nandopsis Tetracanthus(cuban) X Caquetaia Umbriferus(blue umbee)

what you guys think what are some of your project :screwy:
 
Interesting mix of fish you are thinking of using. Something to be aware of is that the F1 or first generation from these hybrids will likely have sterile males. From what I understand, if the female are fertile, you would need to cross it to a wild type male to successfully get fry. So your 4 way cross would be cool, but I don't know that practically you can get there by just crossing two sets of different fish and then crossing the resulting hybrids. You might have chance if the two sets of fish from your initial cross were more closely related (like a carpintis & deppi from the same genus). So you will need to think about at least a second generation to restore fertility of each initial cross or look at doing a 3 way cross where you cross a 3rd species with the hybrid of the first two, but who know if those will be fertile or sterile (male or female)??? Good luck and keep us posted.
 
I believe umbee are more closely related to other CAs but I didn't bother doing much research on it. Generally intergeneric cichlid hybrids(hybrids between different genus) have sterile males, but fertile females.

A project I have thought about for a while, and hope to do eventually, is to breed male ellioti(or is it maculipinnis?) to a female salvini then breed a female of the resulting offspring to a male multispinosa. Then breed a female of those resulting offspring back to a multispinosa. Then breed a male of the resulting offspring(should be fertile being 75% of one species) to the 25%salvini 25%elliot 50% multispinosa hybids resulting in offspring that are 10/16 multispinosa, 3/16 ellioti, and 3/16 salvini. I believe they would be fertile, making the hybrids able to be selectively bred. Also they should stay fairly small, if selecting for small size. Ive thought about different 3 way hybrids using them same technique but with different species.
 
My experiment is to start from scratch (species or first gen hybrids) and crossing them together to create a dwarf flowerhorn. I understand there are already shortbody flowerhorn, but I'm talking about a flowerhorn that is normal proportionally (no deformities) and can live happily in a 30 gallon tank.

Any advice on species to use would be great! My goal is for the resulting fish to look similar to the basic FH strains.


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Fish_Man_Dan said:
My experiment is to start from scratch (species or first gen hybrids) and crossing them together to create a dwarf flowerhorn. I understand there are already shortbody flowerhorn, but I'm talking about a flowerhorn that is normal proportionally (no deformities) and can live happily in a 30 gallon tank.

Any advice on species to use would be great! My goal is for the resulting fish to look similar to the basic FH strains.


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Multispinosa :)
smallest of the CA cichlids
 
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