aquarium powered generator?

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For those of us with large aquariums that employ a W/D filter or some sort of sump, we have a fairly sizeable, continuous flow of water. It seems like it should be possible to harness the energy of that flowing water to generate electrical energy. That energy could then be used to power aquarium lights, or maybe just as a backup generator in case of a blackout.

I'm thinking of something like a miniature waterwheel or crossflow turbine installed under the flowing water into the sump. This could then be wired to a simple dynamo connected to a battery.

I was wondering if anyone had thought of or come across plans to implement something like this.
 
The power created would be minimal. It would create a fraction of the power needed to pump the water back to the aquarium. There are small home sized hydro generators but they require very high pressure water and cost a very pretty penny. The idea is nice but it follows the same principals of a perpetual motion machine, all motion requires more energy than it creates we can get close but we always use more power than we generate.
 
The amount of power you can generate from a small head and flow would not be enough to be usefull. :(

And it allways takes more power to pump water up than you can ever get from it flowing back down again.

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Ian
 
how about if all you had plugged up was a big nasty pump that blew water over your so called turbine. How much power would you have to make? Even if you could subtitute one pump for 3-4 other items it seems as though it would be worth it imo.
 
If you could get a very efficient generator, you could use it to trickle charge the battery in your UPS.

You would be better off making a miniature grist mill and selling the by-product to pay for part of your electric bill. What self-respecting Aquateer (my word) little loaves of bread madde by fish?! :D

Dr Joe

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Again, it's hard to explain so I'll do my best. Most machines in the world are very inefficient. They use more engery than they return. For example if you were to take a hydroelectric power plant and use the engery generated from the power plant to then pump the water back into the reservior you would use nearly twice as much energy lifting the water back into the reservior as you would create from the water tumbling through the turbine. Or, if you were to use the electricity generated by those wind mills you see all voer the place now to power themselves without any wind they would not have the power to spin their own blades.

Example:

A water driven generator can generate enough power for the average home when given enough water pressure and constant flow. When the water in question is naturally occuring, meaning that the the flow of water happens naturally, this machine is considered very efficient since it uses the kinetic energy from gravity to generate this electricity. It also however creates a byproduct of heat, showing that it is not 100% efficient and requires a continuous supply of water to continue to work. If the generator were forced to use the water over and over again using a pump that fed 100% of the energy created by the hydro power generator, the pump would pump less and less until it stopped because of the efficiency lost in the process of changing the kinetic energy to electricity. The ONLY way it could be considered 100 percent efficient would be to have it in a vacuum which would remove the friction form the equation and allow 100 percent of the energy produced to be returned to complete the cycle.

example 2:
We have unused kinetic energy from falling water. Sadly the extremely small volume of water would produce very little energy at all. It would in theory possibly provide a very small trickle charge to a battery, however it would cost more to purchase the unit than it would return for quite some time. This is because it requires a lot of head pressure to actually spin the blades of the turbine. The most efficient one I have heard of uses 4gpm through a 1/4" nozzle at the bare minimum and 250gpm maximum. Gravity fed overflows returning to a sump cannot produce the pressure to make the unit begin to charge. There would have to be a high pressure pump like the ones used for strip mining or sand blasting or a much higher volume of water in a longer drop from a guaranteed source.. ie naturally occuring springs.
 
everythings possible you just have to design it! I got a similar thinking of using evaporating water which then in turn spins a wheel. I havent quite figured out how much water that would take LOL
 
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