Archer Fish... mabye free...

[ferco]

hi all... im comming up to some important exams and i don't think i can look after these fish much longer... also my parents aren't willing for me to get a necassary sized tank for them when they get bigger... so nothing definate yet but anyone in the UK i have 3 Archer fish (who do shoot down live prey as can be seen in my many videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Xt56a-yrY so they are a good buy)
and 1 green scat who seems to be good at scooping up the rubbish for my filter to pick up.... also i will probably be selling the Rio 180, fully kitted out for brackish conditions, sand, and a choice of two powerful external filters [Fluval 305 and a Rena XP3] both CAN be purchased but you will probably only want one, 2 excellent heaters, a tetra tech 400 air pump, all the kit required for brackish (salt, salinity tester...) and possibly some other equipment... now all this kit is optional and i will be quite flexible on the price.. lol i just want enough to justify selling it... lol just want to get something for it... i can send you a full spec list with pics and prices... i would be willing to post the fish and all the equipment bar the tank which would need to be picked up... i live in Edinburgh, Scotland. Hope someone finds this interesting..
oh yea; meant to say the fish are probably going for free.. just paying for postage.
Nothing set in STONE just want to know if anyone is interestd...

 

[Tongue33]

You are the second most awesome archer keeper i have seen!!! That is awesome when someone really does there homework and sets up an actual condition for these fish to eat teh way they do in the wild!!

Kinda like i have yet to see a really suitable Arow tank Nice big tanks suitable to keep and good keepers of course, just I would like to see an aro tank with this kind of hunting

My pond should suffice Butr it is onlyl in the planning stages A good year maybe two before i'll have some jumping aro's!!

Any way NICE Job! I envy the buyer

 

[Atarax]

Great video!!! i love the clapton. those are brackish correct? can they be full salt? i know its prolly a stupid question but i have yet to see any in person so i figured i would ask.

 

[P3R3]

Great video!!! i love the clapton. those are brackish correct? can they be full salt? i know its prolly a stupid question but i have yet to see any in person so i figured i would ask.

They do migrate in and out of saltwater as adults, I dont know if they can be kept longterm in salt.

 

[Legacy]

Great video!!! i love the clapton. those are brackish correct? can they be full salt? i know its prolly a stupid question but i have yet to see any in person so i figured i would ask.

Not stupid at all. As long as you have T. jaculatrix you can keep them for quite some time in full saltwater, but I would recommend keeping them in 1.015SG to keep them the happiest. Of the 7 species in the toxotidae family, I believe T. jaculatrix is the only one that spends significant amounts of time in full marine conditions. It's also the only species of archerfish that can be found on the Solomon Islands which researchers believe got there by swimming across the ocean. The reason you see them near the shoreline, and not in open water, is probably because that's where all the flighted insects live.

My T. jaculatrix were kept in 1.017-1.019SG for about 1 month before I lowered to 1.012SG. I found their colors, growth, and feeding to be excellent. I must warn archer owners in raising their specific gravity this high because of how difficult it can be to identify archers. Only T. jaculatrix, and maybe T. chatareus will survive this short time exposure. I'd expect T. microlepis and all other species to start to die off after 1.010SG. Make sure you properly ID your archers before raising your SG above 1.010.

T. chatareus would be tolerant of full marine also but I wouldn't recommend it. I'd keep them in a SG of 1.010 and leave it at that. These are the second most salt tolerant species in the toxotidae family followed by T. microlepis at 1.005SG. The remaining 4 species: T. blythii, T. lorentzi, T. kimberleyensis , T. oligolepis are all known to be fully freshwater species living far inland from the ocean. These species are not available on the market. This meaning that chances are any archerfish you get from a LFS will require salt to remain healthy.

Reguardless of what specific gravity you keep your water, one should always fluxuate the salinity level every couple of water changes. People have found (including myself) that brackish fish that dwell in estuaries do best when the salinity levels vary, just like in nature.

Ferco,

I would certainly give them an excellent home if you would ship them to me to the United States. They could go in my 200G Mangrove Swamp Tank. However I don't feel that it's in their best interest to do so. However, a good amount of the members that dwell this brackish forum http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showforum=48 are from the UK and would probably be interested in taking them off your hands.

Good Luck, I hope you can one day continue you're fun with archers!

 

[P3R3]

Also, did you just get this tank? I mean what was the point of getting this stuff for 1 month?

 

[ferco]

Also, did you just get this tank? I mean what was the point of getting this stuff for 1 month?

thanks for all the fedback guys, an no i did't just get this, sorry shuld hav said to tell people how old it was... i got it mabye 2 years back... thanks again.

 

[ferco]

bump...

 

[craig]

hi all... im comming up to some important exams and i don't think i can look after these fish much longer... also my parents aren't willing for me to get a necassary sized tank for them when they get bigger... so nothing definate yet but anyone in the UK i have 3 Archer fish (who do shoot down live prey as can be seen in my many videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Xt56a-yrY so they are a good buy)
and 1 green scat who seems to be good at scooping up the rubbish for my filter to pick up.... also i will probably be selling the Rio 180, fully kitted out for brackish conditions, sand, and a choice of two powerful external filters [Fluval 305 and a Rena XP3] both CAN be purchased but you will probably only want one, 2 excellent heaters, a tetra tech 400 air pump, all the kit required for brackish (salt, salinity tester...) and possibly some other equipment... now all this kit is optional and i will be quite flexible on the price.. lol i just want enough to justify selling it... lol just want to get something for it... i can send you a full spec list with pics and prices... i would be willing to post the fish and all the equipment bar the tank which would need to be picked up... i live in Edinburgh, Scotland. Hope someone finds this interesting..
oh yea; meant to say the fish are probably going for free.. just paying for postage.
Nothing set in STONE just want to know if anyone is interestd...

Is the restaurant FAT SAMS still there?

 

[Richie]

Check out Wildwoods site, they have Toxotes microlepis which they are saying are freshwater. I have seen them in the store for a while and they seem to be doing OK. But as you put, you reckon they will need salt at a later stage in life, interesting, do you have pics of the freshwater varieties? Would love to keep some but don't have the room for a brackish tank.

Rich