Atlantic rays

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Etunes

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I live in Florida and this is the only legal ray. I can find very little info on these creatures online. So i am here to get all the info on these guys. What size do they get? Do you guys think a 75 gallon FW set up would be good for a pup then upgrade in the future? I have more questions but i will just wait for these to be awnsered. Any info would be helpful. :popcorn:
 
As long as you have strong filtration and keep up on weekly water changes of at least 50%, you should be fine. Just make sure that you have the means to upgrade later in spite of anything that may come up, you know?

I recommended 10x filtration or more (so on a 75g tank, you would want the total gallons per hour filtered to be 750 or more, preferably over 1000). I personally have 2 filters on the back and a canister filter underneath totalling 1250gph or so on a 125g tank. She is in need of an upgrade to a bigger tank which I'm in the process of tracking down and figuring out. People can keep them in freshwater, but it helps if you add a bit of salt to make it brackish because that helps cut down on the heavy urine production, thus ensuring their well-being. I keep mine more on the heavier brackish side and she's done well. Only thing that set her off now is the change in substrate.
 
75 gallons won't be enough to offset the waste these guys produce.... especially in FW. They get to be about 15-17" or so and do much better long term as saltwater rays.
 
how long will it be till you have to convert em to SW? the ones at my lfs are about 3-4 inches across.
 
Ok, well then here is another question. After posting this i continued my research and found out about the massive amount of waste they produce. But i heard another thing that is probaly a myth and i am sure you guys can bunk it with no problem but i figured i would ask you anyways. I heard that if you get one that was breed from a pair of the rays from 1 of the freshwater colonies that the waste thing is no problem. Is this true?

Just so you know. I am not going to put 1 in a 75g, i am gonna wait and make a custom tank for them and wait to get 1. Probally going to do a brackish or saltwater.
 
Etunes;3491052; said:
Ok, well then here is another question. After posting this i continued my research and found out about the massive amount of waste they produce. But i heard another thing that is probaly a myth and i am sure you guys can bunk it with no problem but i figured i would ask you anyways. I heard that if you get one that was breed from a pair of the rays from 1 of the freshwater colonies that the waste thing is no problem. Is this true?

Just so you know. I am not going to put 1 in a 75g, i am gonna wait and make a custom tank for them and wait to get 1. Probally going to do a brackish or saltwater.
Nope, takes many generations for a species to change such as going from saltwater to freshwater. You'd be better off starting with brackish, and the slowly acclimating your ray to full saltwater, or else
1) you'd need a rediculously big tank
2) you'd need many times more filtration than necessary
3) could cause your ray some serious health issues in the long run if kept in freshwater.
 
They reason they do well in the wild as FW is because they have a LOT of water to mess up. Even the wild ones are producing massive amounts of waste. It's only when they come into captive settings that you see the negative effects of it.
 
Ok, exactly what i wanted to know guys. Thanks a bunch. What i will do is wait a while when i have money/space and make a custom tank for them and make it brackish or full SW. Probaly a brackish tank so i can have archer fish.
 
My sabina was captive bred from generations of FW rays from the St. Johns river system, and thus far she's done fine in captivity with the amount of filtration I have. I check the water parameters every day and it's always stable, the highest levels of nitrites/nitrates being usually Saturday, my regular water change day. As soon as I take care of it, all is back to being normal. It was semi-expensive to get her set up, but once I had everything, it hasn't been too hard to keep up on water changes and rinsing the filter media on a regular basis. The only thing that set my ray off is the change in substrate, and I removed it on Sunday and left the tank barebottom until I can track down some pool filter sand, and she's back on feed and already coming around. So these guys aren't as hard to keep as it may seem, you just have to do the research, spend the money on proper equipment, get everything up and running and stabilized for a couple weeks beforehand, and be flexible and ready to adjust if anything comes up. I have spent more money on her than any other pet (other than when I used to breed ball pythons), and honestly I feel it's been well worth it. I really enjoy her, and never thought I'd be as attached to a fish as I am to her. Even my friends and family adore her and think she's one of the neatest creatures to keep, and everyone has been pulling for her during this rough patch. I'm friends with the manager of the store where I bought Macy, and he keeps a couple of these rays in a 300g tank at his house. They have been kept for years in brackish water with proper filtration, and do great. So it can be done, you just have to make sure to seek out as much info as possible from all sources as well as people that have successfully kept them.
 
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