ATTENTION ALL MFKERS!!!

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ATTENTION MFK MEMBERS!!!

i need help from you much experienced people,

right now after i did my 50% water change, i noticed some of my fish came down with ICH one of my loaches is scratching the hell out of himself and my balas have it too.

I showed my dad, and he said
"well i guess their gunna now, cause i aint buying the medicine"
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he also said
i told to you, you do too big of a water change and you do it every week and you dont have chemipures in the filter, and thats why they get sick"
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50% EVERY WEEK IS GUNNA GET MY FISH SICK?!?!?!.

He gave proposed a deal. . . he said my tank was an EYE SORE, and he told me he'll buy me the medicine if i put all the original gravel and plants back in the tank, (HE THINK THE SAND HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING SICK!!!! :swear: ) so it can look the way HE wants it.

**** NO!!! im not gunna turn my god damn tank into something that pleases him!!! it to please he and keep my fish healthier with no decorations clotting with **** and obstructing swimming space, if i had a better filteration system and a bigger tank, then ya i would do it just cause i have more room for decorations, but all that extra **** is just gunna collect waste and make maintanence harder.

i can buy medicine right now with the last 15 in my pocket, but so frustrate and pissed i could cry :cry:

im suspecting it was my bichir, since he is the newest addition. everytime i get a fish my tank always comes down with something two weeks later, it happened when i got my FH and my severum, am i right, or am i missing something, my dads almost got me brainwashed and i not sure of anything anymore.

please help me!!!!! oh yea, for you fella that "speak your mind" :devil:, you can say something to him and i will show him what you read HAHAHA!!!

ALL opinion and suggestions are welcome
 
Raise the temp and go grab some aquarium salt if you dont have any yet! That is all you need. :)

50% should not cause Ich, I know many members do over 75% weekly without any problems.
 
I visited websites and read articles on treating Ich in generic freshwater fish, food fish, guppies, loaches, and African rift lake cichlids to name a few. I encountered dosage recommendations ranging from about 1.75 tablespoons to 6 tablespoons salt per 5 gallons of water. One rift lake cichlid importer/breeder uses “1 handful” of salt per 5 gallons of water. I concluded that my fish can probably tolerate more salt than I think, at least on a short-term basis. Based on everything that I’ve read to date, I would feel comfortable adding 2-3 tablespoons salt per 5 gallons if I were also using the high temperature treatment outlined above. If I were using salt alone, I would work my way up to 4-5 tablespoons per 5 gallons. We don’t want to skimp on our treatment if we hope to permanently eliminate this pest. Salt should be added slowly over the course of 24-48 hours or so (always dissolve in a small container of tank water first). Keep a close eye on your fish and perform an immediate water change if they show any additional signs of stress (beyond what the Ich is already causing).
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Check out this article http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/ich.php it just about covers everything. :)
 
Also sorry for being a pain in the ass but we got a "Fish Disease and Health" forum. And naming your topic something like "Need ICH Help ASAP" would be nice too. ;)
 
As stated above...Non-iodized salt and temp to 84F should do the trick. If you decided to use meds, don't use anything with copper as that will burn your loaches. Treat for a week after all the spots disappear to kill off any newly germinating spores in your substrate. Good luck and keep us posted.
 
Oddball said:
As stated above...Non-iodized salt and temp to 84F should do the trick. If you decided to use meds, don't use anything with copper as that will burn your loaches. Treat for a week after all the spots disappear to kill off any newly germinating spores in your substrate. Good luck and keep us posted.
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just came back from my lfs with some aquariumpharm rock salt, and I found my heater :D
 
1 per 5 and don't be afraid to get the temp to 85 or 86...thats sure fire and it's never hurt my fish. It accelerates the cycle of Ich and they can't surevive off the fish when they fall, which normally they would continue they're cycle but not above 84, thats why I say go to 85....to be sure.

Personally I think gravel of some sort is a good thing and it doesn't make cleaning it harder but to you dad: Removing that stuff won't cause ICH!! The cycle might see a partial dip when you change filter cartridges or soemthing with no substrate or environmental/decor pieces but not disease. Most guys go well into the 50% range and much greater and it won't hurt them a bit.
 
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