fishfarm;2894906; said:Ceibal is not A. faciatus, but an undiscribed species from North East Uruguay. Ken
Gatling;2892895; said:Are these rare and how do sex them. my friend just
got in a couple of wild ones I am thinking about getting
some.


fishfarm;2896140; said:I'm the only person I know of in the US who has recently imported from Felipe (Rapps did 4-5 years ago) Unless he went to Uruguay and caught them or knows Spencer I doubt they are wild. There's lots of F1's coming from Spencer farm in Florida and $20 sounds right, a wild Red Ceibla would sell for a lot more than $20. Calling them faceatus would make me learly, totally different fish. Fasiatus is a big brown fish, male below, Red Ceibal seldom get bigger than 3-4". Ken