backup generator facts for aquariums!!

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ok everyone I think I have figured out the problems that a conventional portable generator has with running aquarium equiptment. After purchasing a generator and finding out that it wouldn't run my magnetic driven pumps and motors on my aquarium filters I did some research. Here is what you need before you purchase a gen for your aquariums!!

conventional gas powered generators produce distortion in the sine waves that will make your equiptment run funny or not at all. there are 2 ways I have found to correct these problems

the first way is to buy an inverter generator.. these gens produce 12 volts that powers an inverter that turns the 12 volts into 120.. these are great generators but VERY expensive. If you would like to see some of these gens subaru makes one with robin engines and honda gens are inverter gens as well..

the second and cheaper way is to buy a conventional generator that has a 12 volt output. I found one a cabelas.com that is 3500watts for $399.99. this is a good gen for the money. It also powers 240volts and has 20amp outlets instead of 15amp. After that buy a PURE SINE wave inverter. these are slightly more expensive than modified sine wave inverters, but you don't need a big one. just enough to run your magnetic driven equiptment. everything else you can run off the 120 volt outlets. I am not sure if a modified sine wave inverter can run this type of equiptment but I am positive a pure sine inverter can. maybe some other experts can chime in and add to this. I also think this should be a sticky because I have noticed alot of questions about this and power outages are the biggest threat to our fish that we can't control. thanks for all the help with my problem.
 
A 12VDC generator and inverter would probably kill you in the price, since pure sine inverters to power several pumps probably costs more than the generator and you lose a lot of power in the conversion as well as leading to unfavorable conditions for the other things plugged in.

I am very surprised that your generator won't run your pumps (inductive loads). After all, a primary reason to purchase a generator is for the refrigerator. You probably should check the literature to make sure that the manufacturer doesn't recommend this unit only for resistive loads--and then return it. In fact, even a modified square wave inverter (might not work for multiple pumps on the same inverter) or really crappy power source should run small-ish aquarium pumps.

If worse comes to worse, there are many different kinds of AC power conditioners that you could hook up to your generator. These are commonly used for medical, scientific, stereo, or boating applications. Stereo equipment is a good start for a low power DIY solution. A qualified electrician will be able to help you with more cost effective solutions to your problems

Brandon
 
or u could turn your circuit box off and all of your individual circuits. You then plug ur generator into your drier outlet to backfeed your circuit box. You turn on the individual circuit to the drier to allow power to enter, then you flip the circuits on that you want the generator to power.
 
I myself have looked into Kohler :) 3500.00 :) actually not bad :) For the small one :) ANd it will power YOUR house :)
 
justin;625359; said:
or u could turn your circuit box off and all of your individual circuits. You then plug ur generator into your drier outlet to backfeed your circuit box. You turn on the individual circuit to the drier to allow power to enter, then you flip the circuits on that you want the generator to power.

That sounds like the solution to this problem:headbang2 i don't know alot about eletricity but if it worked and dosen't burn down the house:eek: it's a easy fix.My generator will run my filters they just sound rough and slugish they are all hob's and i know the generator is strong enough it's 5,000 watts.:D
 
thats the problem though. the rough sluggishness means they aren't running right and I think you could burn them up over time. Also I don' think theat wireing it to the house changes the fact that it's dirty electricity. You have to have somthing that cleans up the sine waves. I am going to try a modified sine wave inverter that my dad has to se if it will work after I get the new generator from cabelas.
 
I have 4 emperors and all of mine run normal on my generator. I just backfeed my house. If the power is dirty and inconsistent than maybe you just aren't getting a smooth idle out of your motor. Mine runs like that if you leave the choke on but once its heated up and running everything is fine with mine. Also if your filters run like that wouldn't a light bulb flicker and not stay consistant.
 
Tongue33;625363; said:
I myself have looked into Kohler :) 3500.00 :) actually not bad :) For the small one :) ANd it will power YOUR house :)

Kohler makes nice ones ...i have never hace any problems with my hond thoogh
 
FishSkins;626057; said:
Kohler makes nice ones ...i have never hace any problems with my hond thoogh

Where do you find Hond??
 
justin;626014; said:
I have 4 emperors and all of mine run normal on my generator. I just backfeed my house. If the power is dirty and inconsistent than maybe you just aren't getting a smooth idle out of your motor. Mine runs like that if you leave the choke on but once its heated up and running everything is fine with mine. Also if your filters run like that wouldn't a light bulb flicker and not stay consistant.

it idles perfect and powers everything except my filters. Like I said before it has to do with the sine waves. This is the same thing that happens to car stereo's if you don't have a noise filter. The engine produces a kind of static that disrupts the way magnetc driven motor opperate. Also light bulbs are a resistive load not an inductive load.

to better understand this read this page
http://www.robinamerica.com/generators/inverter-works.html
 
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