that's cool how i thought that i was going crazy and come to find out after posting this tread im not... now i just listen and watch the rtc and i notice she is in love with my tsn every time the get close to each other she grunt's and try's to digg under him and then they just chill together i cant ever see myself getting rid of those too that's why i have to build a pond when i move to az can n-e one advise me on the best size or gallon pond and if i could put any other fish with them. i was thinking of a pond the size of a queen sized bed.