beneficial bacteria additives? HELP!

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo
For what?If you need a dechlorinator the stess zyme or prime work well.As for starting the biofilter do a fishless cycle or get some material from a filter in an established tank.Dont waste your money on products that say they will start your biofilter,the vast majority are worthless.
 
a product called bio spira works but is expensive stability i have not used but i've been told by people that are experienced that it works
 
gomezladdams;2554173; said:
For what?If you need a dechlorinator the stess zyme or prime work well.As for starting the biofilter do a fishless cycle or get some material from a filter in an established tank.Dont waste your money on products that say they will start your biofilter,the vast majority are worthless.

Agreed, pre established media from another tank is a great way.
 
The ONLY legitimate product is Bio Spira. It requires continual refrigeration in order to remain viable. Any time frame without refrigeration between the manufacturer and the LFS will kill the culture making it about as effective as Cycle or Stability, not at all IMHO and experience.

A good aquarium takes time and effort. Don't try to rush things, especially cycling the tank, because it will only lead to bigger problems later on.

The thing that I do to cycle new tanks is get a few handfuls of gravel from an established (cycled) tank and add it to my new tank.
 
As these other guys said, most of these products are garbage. How does the beneficial bacteria live in these products if it needs insane amounts of oxygen? If your filter turns off for a few hours, you can "break" your cycle and have to start building BB from scratch, but these products can sit on a shelf in a sealed container for a year at a time? Hmm. . .

Seed filter media. That's a great way. I keep a sponge filter running in at least one of my tanks at all times for exactly this reason- any time i set up a new tank, I just pop that whole sponge filter straight in the tank. It's a completely existing colony of BB already in a filter.

The only store bought products I ever use (asides from Bio Spira, as someone mentioned- i hear that stuff is great, and would try it if I needed an instant cycle) to help keep new fish alive is zeolite. While I don't recommend regular use of zeolite, if you use it as the last media in your filter (mechanical, biological, THEN zeolite, compared to mech, chem, then bio), it lets your bio media process as much ammonia as it can, then it absorbs whatever ammonia is left in the water after. It prolongs the complete cycle, but it will keep fish alive if you're in a pinch (like when power goes out and you kill your BB, of it a pump breaks & goes dry or whatever) and you're forced to start over.
 
nolapete;2555321; said:
The ONLY legitimate product is Bio Spira. It requires continual refrigeration in order to remain viable. Any time frame without refrigeration between the manufacturer and the LFS will kill the culture making it about as effective as Cycle or Stability, not at all IMHO and experience.


A good aquarium takes time and effort. Don't try to rush things, especially cycling the tank, because it will only lead to bigger problems later on.

The thing that I do to cycle new tanks is get a few handfuls of gravel from an established (cycled) tank and add it to my new tank.

BioSpira is a good product, but it is not the only effective or "legitimate" product. Your comments about refrigeration are correct....HOWEVER...the necessity to refrigerate can be eliminated if the bacteria are induced to undergo spore formation. Bacterial spores are VERY durable and can easily withstand a few years of storage under ambient conditions. This is precisely the premise upon which Seachem Stability is based and for me, it has worked exceptionally well indeed. It is also a fraction of the price of BioSpira (which I have also used). The only caveat when using either BioSpira, Stability or an inoculum from a mature filter, is the recommendation to supplement the new tank with a small amount of cane sugar as a carbon source for the bacteria.
 
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