Im shipping a large ray soon and wondering wht the best product is to cap their stingers. Dont want this big girl to cut the bag
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Best product to cover Stinger For Shipping?
- Thread starter vamptrev
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Im thinking those rubber strings you can have on hooks for fishing. That might work pretty good. I dont know if you know what i mean, but here in norway we have these rubber "hose" you can put on the angles when you fish for sertain type of fish. Comes in different colors, but red is most used here.
Im afraid that a peice of stryro may come off somehow if she tries to turn around...
Im deff gonna do the pond liner idea though
Also if anyone knows where to get big shipping bags too please let me know
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Im deff gonna do the pond liner idea though
Also if anyone knows where to get big shipping bags too please let me know
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I'd ask JimR about the shipping bags..... I know he's been down that road.
For the stinger, I'd seriously try heatshrink. Not the cheap crap. The good stuff has glue in it. Make it an inch longer then the barb, the stuff stretches so you should just be able to stretch it with needlenose if the barb is too fat. If you grab the base of the stinger with hemos or needlenose you should be able to get it far enough away from her tail to hit the very end of the stinger where the point is with a lighter or torch just enough to get the glue going then just pinch off the end.
Another option I see being a good one would be silicone vacuum line for cars. Or even vacuum line plugs.
Styro is probobly a poor idea, I guess I tend to overlook barbs cause it seems I've had a lot more issues with the rays biting through the bags then ripping with the barb.
I've been told it's best to slightly cramp big rays when shipping under the principle that if they have room to move then they try harder to get out and can build momentum, while if there more pinned they seem to accept it and don't try as hard to get out. Not sure if there's any truth to it or not, but none of the big rays we've shipped have been lost.
Can't count how many have been saved by the pondliner trick. Almost seems they're gonna get through the bags no matter what, wit the liner at least the water stays in..... Provided the box doesn't get flipped upside down.
I don't have near the experience you do shipping but have seen some big rays shipped. Figured tossing ideas out isn't gonna do much more then lead to other ideas.
I still think someone needs to create some large airtight resealable reuseable shipping containers. IF someone doesn't make this happen soon I'm gonna get creative...... Really don't see why these don't exist yet given the price of rays and the idiotism involved with the people at the airlines that handle our fish. I bet you could get one to withstand a 4' drop upside down without breaking/leaking. Build a half dozen, put a deposit on them and just have them UPS grounded back after the ray gets to it's new destination.
We use controllers that email us when stuff goes out of range, or to control waterlevels, or temp, live internet feed of tanks but yet when it comes to shipping it's a box, some styro, a few bags, some hope, and a prayer that our rediculously expensive investment gets to its new destination in a salvagable condition...... Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out this doesn't make a lot of sense..... lol
For the stinger, I'd seriously try heatshrink. Not the cheap crap. The good stuff has glue in it. Make it an inch longer then the barb, the stuff stretches so you should just be able to stretch it with needlenose if the barb is too fat. If you grab the base of the stinger with hemos or needlenose you should be able to get it far enough away from her tail to hit the very end of the stinger where the point is with a lighter or torch just enough to get the glue going then just pinch off the end.
Another option I see being a good one would be silicone vacuum line for cars. Or even vacuum line plugs.
Styro is probobly a poor idea, I guess I tend to overlook barbs cause it seems I've had a lot more issues with the rays biting through the bags then ripping with the barb.
I've been told it's best to slightly cramp big rays when shipping under the principle that if they have room to move then they try harder to get out and can build momentum, while if there more pinned they seem to accept it and don't try as hard to get out. Not sure if there's any truth to it or not, but none of the big rays we've shipped have been lost.
Can't count how many have been saved by the pondliner trick. Almost seems they're gonna get through the bags no matter what, wit the liner at least the water stays in..... Provided the box doesn't get flipped upside down.
I don't have near the experience you do shipping but have seen some big rays shipped. Figured tossing ideas out isn't gonna do much more then lead to other ideas.
I still think someone needs to create some large airtight resealable reuseable shipping containers. IF someone doesn't make this happen soon I'm gonna get creative...... Really don't see why these don't exist yet given the price of rays and the idiotism involved with the people at the airlines that handle our fish. I bet you could get one to withstand a 4' drop upside down without breaking/leaking. Build a half dozen, put a deposit on them and just have them UPS grounded back after the ray gets to it's new destination.
We use controllers that email us when stuff goes out of range, or to control waterlevels, or temp, live internet feed of tanks but yet when it comes to shipping it's a box, some styro, a few bags, some hope, and a prayer that our rediculously expensive investment gets to its new destination in a salvagable condition...... Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out this doesn't make a lot of sense..... lol
He means like a silicon boost tube. They range from tiny to huge. I would use that, cut it an inch past barb and slide it on. I have also seen that rubbery tape used.
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A big ray's gonna have a big barb. Grab that thing at the base and hold it away from the tail and you should have several inches between the barb tip and tail flesh. If the heatshrink is 1" longer then the barb and your just hitting the tip for a couple seconds it should be fine. Especially given the ray's gonna be wet. I'm not talking using a lighter and going back and forth on the heatshrink. I'm talking micro torch from the side so you wouldn't even be aiming down at the tail. 2 seconds and the glues oozing. Pinch it down above or even on the barb and boom! Not puttin that through a bag......
People don't like the idea of someone using a micro torch to solder under the dash of thier $50K Lincoln either but guess what......
It's efficient and it works.why no just take a pair of side cutters and cut the darn thing?doesn't harm the ray and gives you pc of mind. if you still feel like it, put a pc of airline tubiing or rubber over the cut remainder of the stinger.