I've seen fish with bloat and they've swam fine....Anyone have some good info on how the swim bladder works, how it can get infected and such?? My polleni couldn't get to the bottom one day so I hit the tank with a heavy dose of Pima fix and it took care of it.... Pima is so broad spectrum though not sure what it was. Anyone???
bloating??, swim bladder??
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swim bladder = gas bladder (a thin membranous, sometimes alveolated sac in the dorsal portion of the abdominal cavity. Contains a varying mixture of gases, not identical to the composition of air. May be one, two or three chambered. May be connected to the gut by a tube, the ductus pneumaticus (then called physostomous) or unconnected (then called physoclistous). May function as one or more of:- hydrostatic organ, sound producing organ, sound receptor, respiratory organ. Found in Actinopterygii. Often lacking in bottom fishes. Sometimes called air bladder, a less appropriate term).
swim bladder disease = changes in pressure or temperature in tropical fishes that affects that internal organ responsible for maintaining equilibrium; the fish may rest on the bottom or float on the surface.
swim bladder infection = an acute haemorrhagic viral infection with a rhabdovirus. Symptoms include loss of coordination and equilibrium, popeyes, swollen belly, inflamed and swollen vent, and oedema and haemorrhages of various organs, particularly the swim bladder.
swim bladder disease = changes in pressure or temperature in tropical fishes that affects that internal organ responsible for maintaining equilibrium; the fish may rest on the bottom or float on the surface.
swim bladder infection = an acute haemorrhagic viral infection with a rhabdovirus. Symptoms include loss of coordination and equilibrium, popeyes, swollen belly, inflamed and swollen vent, and oedema and haemorrhages of various organs, particularly the swim bladder.
Whats up Anne.... I get all that, I'm just wondering what the problem was, as far as: Would a swim bladder infection be cureable or what it bloat? Is it possible for bloat to also screw up bouancy properties for a fish? Thats the first time I've ever seen anything like it whether it's been bloat or a sw. bld. problem. Just trying to know what for next time I guess. By the way, your Av. scares me for some reason :ner2:
''Would a swim bladder infection be cureable'' Yes in many cases it is
''Is it possible for bloat to also screw up bouancy properties for a fish?'' yeppers it can
watch the fish for signs of ''pinconning'' thats when the scales stick out and it well looks like a pine cone this is a sign of bloat which can have several causes nutritional,bacterial etc.
A swimbladder disorder usually does not show pinconning but the fish will have trouble holding an upright position can't reach the bottom swimms all wobbly
several possible causes include massive temp changes and air gulping while feeding -Anne
''Is it possible for bloat to also screw up bouancy properties for a fish?'' yeppers it can
watch the fish for signs of ''pinconning'' thats when the scales stick out and it well looks like a pine cone this is a sign of bloat which can have several causes nutritional,bacterial etc.
A swimbladder disorder usually does not show pinconning but the fish will have trouble holding an upright position can't reach the bottom swimms all wobbly
several possible causes include massive temp changes and air gulping while feeding -Anne
I had fish once that got a swim bladder problem and they turned upside down until cured. I have a goldfish right now that stays right side up, he just cant stay below the surface and bobs around at the top. His belly looked swollen and Ive aspirated his gut a couple times with temporary results but he's been this way for months. All the other guys are good and healthy.
What is the survival/mortality rate of swim bladder disorders?
Without an accurate diagnosis of root cause I understand this can be difficult to discern but there must be some sort of average out there related to types of treatment applied to the problem.
I have a Green Terror that I have had in my cichlid tank for over 5 months that is an otherwise healthy specimen. As recent as 3 days ago she began swimming vertically and has noticeable buoyancy problems.
The water parameters are good, I do 2x25% water changes per week. All other fish are healthy and show no signs of stress. And the affected fish seems to be fine as well other than the swim bladder issue.
I plan to try the frozen pea remedy and possibly add some epsom salt to the tank as well.
Maybe at some point I will consider aspiration but only after the other options have been exhausted.
TIA
Without an accurate diagnosis of root cause I understand this can be difficult to discern but there must be some sort of average out there related to types of treatment applied to the problem.
I have a Green Terror that I have had in my cichlid tank for over 5 months that is an otherwise healthy specimen. As recent as 3 days ago she began swimming vertically and has noticeable buoyancy problems.
The water parameters are good, I do 2x25% water changes per week. All other fish are healthy and show no signs of stress. And the affected fish seems to be fine as well other than the swim bladder issue.
I plan to try the frozen pea remedy and possibly add some epsom salt to the tank as well.
Maybe at some point I will consider aspiration but only after the other options have been exhausted.
TIA