Blood Parrot possibly naturally wild occurring?

[koltsixx]

According to a practicalfishkeeping.co.uk article Blood Parrots have been recently found to be a naturally occurring species. Published by Nathan Hill today 4/1/2016 the article goes on to say how Blood Parrots have subsequently been formally described in the Chinese journal 'Provincial Ichthyobiology'. As well as describing how they've been named Mocklacichla kaiduensis after the Kaidu river in china in which they are found. Here's the link to the article http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/content.php?sid=7046

So what do you guys think? Probably an April fools joke but what if it was true? That BP's have been purposefully labeled hybrids to protect the personal interests of those collecting them as the article says? And what of all those who basically called them an abomination? Will those who have feel differently if BP's are naturally occurring? Is it okay to be perfectly imperfect if nature makes them that way? Or do we just look at them in whole new light and try to figure why nature would shape the BP as it has?

I'm just curious because I myself have always been torn. I always liked the BP's for the beauty in their ugliness. I saw them much like I saw bulldogs. While not being traditionally beautiful they where attractive IMO for their uniqueness. Yet I always disliked thinking that their body was twisted to create the appeal and that they might be suffering due to it.

 

[Hoplo]

The last two paragraphs make me fairly certain that it is an april fools article....

"The collection was pretty dangerous," Tho adds. "As you’d expect, the exporters are pretty keen to keep the source a secret. When they spotted us near the river, they started shooting at us. At first it was low calibre stuff, but when they rolled up with automatic rifles, we grabbed what we could and ran."



Tho reports the natural biotope of the fish as: "Barren, with lots of colourful substrates and plastic debris discarded from the numerous paint and toy factories nearby," meaning that most aquaria that house them are pretty close to being exact replicas already.

 

[Def Leppard Hysteria]

April Fools!

 

[koltsixx]

lol! I totally missed that but I wouldn't have taken BP's being naturally occurring as fact unless I saw multiple publications. I was more or less curious about how if it was true how it might change peoples perception.

For instance dogs have been twisted in every which way and many breeds suffer for it. I chose the bulldog because they do remind me of BP's in them being so unnatural in their shape to the point it affects them. Bulldogs have breathing problems, eye lid problems and birthing problems yet most think nothing of it. I imagined it's more or less because they've been around so long people have just accepted them without question. So I wondered what would happen if what we thought of BP's was turned around. Would we accept them like we accept so many dog breeds?

 

[Hoplo]

I wouldn't because I always feel that there deformed mouth, and spine effects there quality of life, which is important for me.
In the same way as I don't like dog breeds that have to short nostrils so they struggle to breath, it just seems cruel to me.

 

[wild bill]

Hoplo you need to talk to our Pugs theylook mad but are very happy dogs. Even have more get up and go than our Grey Hound. This cruel thing has been put in our minds by society not any truth. Just look how parrots act in a tank they take no guff from anyone. If they were in pain they would not have all that fight and appetite.

 

[koltsixx]

What's cruel and what's not when it comes to manipulating any animals characteristics IMO is a very hazy line. How do we know what effects an animals quality of life? Are animals capable of being happy? And if some are, what makes them happy? Since they're not as highly evolved as a person would simply making biological imperatives easy to acquire make them happy? And if this is the case would they really miss genetic adaptations necessary to survival when there is no need for them, especially when they never had it?

Again I refer to the bulldog and as wild bill used as an example a Pug. We provide for them and when a health issue comes up(like breathing issues) due to their genetic short coming we can usually fix it. Is that any worse then the threats to their survival they might face if they weren't manipulated and domesticated? Does it affect their quality of life anymore then a harsh winter where food is scarce or when they have to face down a predator?

I'm not saying one is better then the other but I am asking how do you make the call?

 

[Def Leppard Hysteria]

In all fairness, a correctly bred bulldog will not have difficulty breathing in normal circumstances. 90+ degree weather with 90% humidity....sure....but any real bulldog owner wouldn't subject their dogs to being out in that weather for more than a short period of time.

 

[RD.]

I've never cared much for the writings of Nathan Hill, until this.

 

[DN328]

Are people that are against BP take that position primary because the results are not what we think are "normal" or ideal?
That is, if what is produced is physically and biologically normal than it's accepted?

I chose two parrots primarily because I like their behavior, I like their color and they have made good tank mates for all arowana's that I've seen people keep. As strange as it sounds this is the combo I like.