Blue Eye Pleco

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A subject came up here the other day that involved a blue eye pleco I use to own. I realise that they are prety scarce now days. I remember the days when they were very common, seems like about 10 years ago or so they dissapeared.

Anyone know the real reason they are not available anymore?

I'm refering to Panaque Sp. "sutoni"

THanks...Joel
 
a freind of mine found one in a small LFS hiden away about 6 months and got it for £120 but it died 3 months later form a fungal problem :(

another blue eyed panche bits the dust
 
Whitey186 said:
Asked the same question a few weeks ago, was told lose of habitat. But can get them in England for 24.95 sterling.



Enjoy them almost impossible to find on this side of the pond and if you can find a breeder it cost an and a leg,which is a shame because imo they are the nicest of the plecs
 
Yes, destruction of habitat. If I remember right it was an oil spill.
Total shame. I used to have one and remember only paying $20 for him.
Gone are the days
 
I was just talking about this as well. I remember seeing these and many other species that you just can't find anymore....if I only knew then what I know now.
 
Whitey186 said:
Asked the same question a few weeks ago, was told lose of habitat. But can get them in England for 24.95 sterling.


Better check those fish. Chances are you're not getting Panaque sutonii but a closely resembling species called Panaque cochliodon (longer more tapered snout, smaller adult size).
 
I found some info on the disappearance of P. sutonii:

Goodbye Panaque Suttoni

Panaque Suttoni is gone, as reported from a local fish vendor today to me. The Blue Eyed Plecostomus (a blue eyed-black bodied algae eater) is said to be gone from the ecosystem. One of two things seem to be the reason..

1. A parasitic outbreak in the region, that Gov't tried to control but ended up destroying most the life in the little ecosystem because of carelessness.

2. An oil spill wiped out the ecosystem where this pleco, and other things lived.

Said to be the only area where the pleco lives in the wild... let's hope someone is breeding them privately or in fish farms.



Piscirickettsiosis and piscirickettsiosis-like infections in fish: a review.

Mauel MJ, Miller DL.

Veterinary Diagnostic and Investigational Laboratory, The University of Georgia, P.O. Box 1389, Tifton, GA 31793, USA.

Piscirickettsia salmonis was the first "rickettsia-like" bacteria to be recognized as a pathogenic agent of fish. Since the first reports of piscirickettsiosis emerged from Chile in the late 1980s, Piscirickettsia-like bacteria have been recognized with increasing frequency in a variety of fish species, from both fresh and saltwaters around the world. Although the first reported incidents of Piscirickettsia were in salmonids, Piscirickettsia-like bacteria are now being frequently associated with disease syndromes in non-salmonid fish. Mortalities have occurred in white seabass (Atactoscion noblis), black seabass (Dicentrarchus sp.), tilapia (Oreochromis, Tilapia and Sarotherodon spp.) and blue-eyed plecostomus (Panaque suttoni). Piscirickettsiosis and piscirickettsiosis-like diseases have affected aquaculture productivity, profitability, the species of fish compatible with commercial rearing, and transportation of fish from site to site. Piscirickettsiosis and syndromes caused by similar bacteria are an emerging disease complex that will increasingly inhibit fish production.

I'm more inclined to believe that resource mismanagement led to over-pollution of the small region where these cats originate. And, pollution led to reduced immunity to diseases not previously seen in this species. Government intervention was either too late to have any beneficial result or inept to the point of either doing no good or committing additional harm to the species (and possibly others).
 
Man that sucks...

I sold mine for $30.00 several years ago, it was the last one I ever saw.....

I know nothing about breeding Panaque species, hope some one dose.

Someone here had one for sale in the last few months, wonder where it went...
 
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