Blue Johanni male /female

[DBIRD]

5 years ago I purchased a blue male and orange female Johanni pair . They have had a total of 3 different sets of fry. All have been born blue. 2 of them were so much lighter in coloring, sort of washed out, but just like the dad an electric blue johanni. never had any orange fry.
So my question to any one who an help me with my confusion is how can a Johanni have light colored BLUE femaies when the mother, his mate, is orange? i never had any orange fry nor did they grow into orange there is no other possible mother in the tank, ever. BTY, i just recently lost the orange mother, an amazing person /ality . She would protect any tank mate from a bully even her mate who bullied some times. She fought hard to stay with us.. They were about 4 " long when i got them so I do not how old they were When I got them . I still have the daddy and he has one son that I kept kept, and he is beautiful same dark blue like dad.
let me know what you think.. this is my first post and my first experience reaching out in a platform like this... thanks!
Pictures are when these guys got lucky and i became a hobbyist.. HAHA!

 

[tlindsey]

5 years ago I purchased a blue male and orange female Johanni pair . They have had a total of 3 different sets of fry. All have been born blue. 2 of them were so much lighter in coloring, sort of washed out, but just like the dad an electric blue johanni. never had any orange fry.
So my question to any one who an help me with my confusion is how can a Johanni have light colored BLUE femaies when the mother, his mate, is orange? i never had any orange fry nor did they grow into orange there is no other possible mother in the tank, ever. BTY, i just recently lost the orange mother, an amazing person /ality . She would protect any tank mate from a bully even her mate who bullied some times. She fought hard to stay with us.. They were about 4 " long when i got them so I do not how old they were When I got them . I still have the daddy and he has one son that I kept kept, and he is beautiful same dark blue like dad.
let me know what you think.. this is my first post and my first experience reaching out in a platform like this... thanks!

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Welcome aboard
I have very little experience with African Cichlid but I guarantee members with experience will chime in with a definite answer to your question.

 

[tlindsey]

5 years ago I purchased a blue male and orange female Johanni pair . They have had a total of 3 different sets of fry. All have been born blue. 2 of them were so much lighter in coloring, sort of washed out, but just like the dad an electric blue johanni. never had any orange fry.
So my question to any one who an help me with my confusion is how can a Johanni have light colored BLUE femaies when the mother, his mate, is orange? i never had any orange fry nor did they grow into orange there is no other possible mother in the tank, ever. BTY, i just recently lost the orange mother, an amazing person /ality . She would protect any tank mate from a bully even her mate who bullied some times. She fought hard to stay with us.. They were about 4 " long when i got them so I do not how old they were When I got them . I still have the daddy and he has one son that I kept kept, and he is beautiful same dark blue like dad.
let me know what you think.. this is my first post and my first experience reaching out in a platform like this... thanks!
Pictures are when these guys got lucky and i became a hobbyist.. HAHA!

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[Milingu]

I have seen that before in so called johanni. The father was a P. cyaneorhabdos and not a johanni. It's impossible to see the difference once they show adult colours. When you mix them the blue colour of the cyaneorhabdos is often dominant.

But I guess your case is even more complicated because the orange fish in the picture is not a johanni but some Maylandia species. Most likely estherae or maybe sp. msobo.

 

[DBIRD]

Thanks for the look... Yes. It confuses me... Not supposed to be both Johanni's at same time . I suppose I have mixed bred something..LOL

I have seen that before in so called johanni. The father was a P. cyaneorhabdos and not a johanni. It's impossible to see the difference once they show adult colours. When you mix them the blue colour of the cyaneorhabdos is often dominant.

But I guess your case is even more complicated because the orange fish in the picture is not a johanni but some Maylandia species. Most likely estherae or maybe sp. msobo.

 

[DBIRD]

ANOTHER LOOK

 

[duanes]

African cichlid species like mbuna and peacocks have been randomly crossed for decades, so if you buy one of these cichlids said to be some species or another from an average LFS , or one that accepts trade ins without providence, your chance of it being that true species are maybe 50/50 at best. The same is becoming true for Central Americans these days.
Unless you go to a respected breeder or importer that specializes in keeping the integrity of the species separate,, chances are getting that true species are slim to none, unless the species are absolutely distinct enough to not make a mistake.
These mistakes and mixes are very common with similar cichlids in a genus or groups like mbuna, rift lake peacocks, Vieja, Parachromis, and Herichthys.

 

[markstrimaran]

Yep, he's a hybrid, Dragon Alucarius Pugiuos Acei