i caught these guys out at a lake in the pine barrens of nj in my minnow trap. they are supposed to be really timid but after the first day they knnew that i was the one with the food. they swim all over the glass when i come in the room. they are awesome little monsters. i think most of them are fullgrown, how many you guys think is cool to put in one 55 gal? i would like to get som black banded sunies to complete the setup.