has any one herd or own a bowfin (Amia calva) it caught my eye and i was wondering. it gets 20 inch and members of this family has fossils 180 million years old
Bowfin
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Heard of them. Had them. They can get considerably larger than 20". Some have been caught over 40". The Amia does go back to the lower jurassic and hasn't changed much since. Fossils show the bowfin as evolving air-breathing organs for survival in oxygen-poor waters. The present day bowfin retains that same capability.
This is a cool-water North American version of a snakehead.
This is a cool-water North American version of a snakehead.
ah i see just not as illegal as snake heads so if legal they are just a practical snake head replacement
Unfortunately, they're on the no-no list for CA. Along with most every other kind of fish.
BTW, that bit about permits is a joke. CA doesn't issue permits to non-institutions or non-commercial hatcheries.
CALIFORNIA prohibited fish species -- illegal to import, transport, or possess live specimens w/o a permit
(4) Class Agnatha - Jawless Fishes
(A) Family Petromyzontidae - Lampreys All nonnative species (D).
(5) Class Osteichthyes - Bony Fishes
(A) Family Percichthyidae - Temperate Basses
1. The species Morone americana (White perch) (D).
2. The species Morone chrysops (White bass) (D).
(B ) Family Clupeidae - Herrings Dorosoma cepedianum (Gizzard shad) (D).
(C ) Family Sciaenidae - Drums Aplodinotus grunniens (freshwater drum) (D).
(D) Family Characidae - Characins
1. Astyanax fasciatus (Banded tetra) (D).
2. All species of the genera Serrasalmus, Serrasalmo, Pygocentrus, Taddyella, Rooseveltiella, and Pygopristis (Piranhas) (D).
3. Hoplias malabaricus (Tiger fish) (D).
(E) Family Salmonidae - Trouts Salmo salar (Atlantic salmon) - Restricted in the Smith River watershed (D).
(F) Family Lepisosteidae - Gars All species (D).
(G) Family Amiidae - Bowfins All species (D).
(H) Family Poeciliidae - Livebearers Belonesox belizanus (Pike killifish) (D).
(I) Family Channidae - Snakeheads All species (D).
(J) Family Cyprinidae - Carps and Minnows
1. Leuciscus idus (ide) (D).
2. Ctenopharyngodon idellus (Grass carp) (D), except that permits may be issued to a person, organization or agency for possession of triploid grass carp, under conditions set forth in Section 238.6.
3. Hypophthalmichthys molitrix (Silver carp) (D).
4. Aristichthys nobilis (Bighead carp) (D).
(K) Family Trichomycteridae (Pygidiidae) - Parasitic Catfishes. All species (D).
(L) Family Cetopsidae - Whalelike Catfishes. All species (D).
(M) Family Clariidae - Labyrinth Catfishes All species of the genera Clarias, Dinotopterus, and Heterobranchus (D).
(N) Family Heteropneustidae (Saccobranchidae) - Airsac Catfishes All species (D).
(O) Family Cichlidae - Cichlids
1. Tilapia sparrmani (Banded Tilapia) (D).
2. Tilapia zilli (Redbelly tilapia) (D), except permits may be issued to a person or agency for importation, transportation, or possession in the counties of San Bernardino, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Diego, and Imperial.
3. Tilapia aurea (Blue tilapia) (D).
4. Tilapia nilotica (Nile tilapia) (D).
(P) Family Anguillidae - Freshwater Eels. All species of genus Anguilla (D).
(Q) Family Esocidae - Pikes all species (D).
(R ) Family Percidae - Perches
1. Perca flavescens (Yellow perch) (D).
2. Stizostedion vitreum (Walleye) (D).
(S) Family Catostomidae - Suckers All members of the genus Ictiobus (Buffalos) (D).
(T) Family Cyprinodontidae - Killifishes Cyprinodon variegatus (Sheepshead minnow) (D).
(6) Class Elasmobranchiomorphi - Cartilaginous Fishes
(A) Family Carcharhinidae - Requiem Sharks All species of genus Carcharhinus (Freshwater sharks) (D).
(B ) Family Potamotrygonidae - River stingrays All species (D).
Source: California Code of Regulations, title 14, section 671. These regulations are promulgated by the California Fish and Game Commission pursuant to statutory authority set forth in the California Fish and Game Code. (There's a statutory list too, but the one from the regulations is more complete. The statutes only contain the original list, whereas the regulations also include all species added by the Commission.)
BTW, that bit about permits is a joke. CA doesn't issue permits to non-institutions or non-commercial hatcheries.
CALIFORNIA prohibited fish species -- illegal to import, transport, or possess live specimens w/o a permit
(4) Class Agnatha - Jawless Fishes
(A) Family Petromyzontidae - Lampreys All nonnative species (D).
(5) Class Osteichthyes - Bony Fishes
(A) Family Percichthyidae - Temperate Basses
1. The species Morone americana (White perch) (D).
2. The species Morone chrysops (White bass) (D).
(B ) Family Clupeidae - Herrings Dorosoma cepedianum (Gizzard shad) (D).
(C ) Family Sciaenidae - Drums Aplodinotus grunniens (freshwater drum) (D).
(D) Family Characidae - Characins
1. Astyanax fasciatus (Banded tetra) (D).
2. All species of the genera Serrasalmus, Serrasalmo, Pygocentrus, Taddyella, Rooseveltiella, and Pygopristis (Piranhas) (D).
3. Hoplias malabaricus (Tiger fish) (D).
(E) Family Salmonidae - Trouts Salmo salar (Atlantic salmon) - Restricted in the Smith River watershed (D).
(F) Family Lepisosteidae - Gars All species (D).
(G) Family Amiidae - Bowfins All species (D).
(H) Family Poeciliidae - Livebearers Belonesox belizanus (Pike killifish) (D).
(I) Family Channidae - Snakeheads All species (D).
(J) Family Cyprinidae - Carps and Minnows
1. Leuciscus idus (ide) (D).
2. Ctenopharyngodon idellus (Grass carp) (D), except that permits may be issued to a person, organization or agency for possession of triploid grass carp, under conditions set forth in Section 238.6.
3. Hypophthalmichthys molitrix (Silver carp) (D).
4. Aristichthys nobilis (Bighead carp) (D).
(K) Family Trichomycteridae (Pygidiidae) - Parasitic Catfishes. All species (D).
(L) Family Cetopsidae - Whalelike Catfishes. All species (D).
(M) Family Clariidae - Labyrinth Catfishes All species of the genera Clarias, Dinotopterus, and Heterobranchus (D).
(N) Family Heteropneustidae (Saccobranchidae) - Airsac Catfishes All species (D).
(O) Family Cichlidae - Cichlids
1. Tilapia sparrmani (Banded Tilapia) (D).
2. Tilapia zilli (Redbelly tilapia) (D), except permits may be issued to a person or agency for importation, transportation, or possession in the counties of San Bernardino, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Diego, and Imperial.
3. Tilapia aurea (Blue tilapia) (D).
4. Tilapia nilotica (Nile tilapia) (D).
(P) Family Anguillidae - Freshwater Eels. All species of genus Anguilla (D).
(Q) Family Esocidae - Pikes all species (D).
(R ) Family Percidae - Perches
1. Perca flavescens (Yellow perch) (D).
2. Stizostedion vitreum (Walleye) (D).
(S) Family Catostomidae - Suckers All members of the genus Ictiobus (Buffalos) (D).
(T) Family Cyprinodontidae - Killifishes Cyprinodon variegatus (Sheepshead minnow) (D).
(6) Class Elasmobranchiomorphi - Cartilaginous Fishes
(A) Family Carcharhinidae - Requiem Sharks All species of genus Carcharhinus (Freshwater sharks) (D).
(B ) Family Potamotrygonidae - River stingrays All species (D).
Source: California Code of Regulations, title 14, section 671. These regulations are promulgated by the California Fish and Game Commission pursuant to statutory authority set forth in the California Fish and Game Code. (There's a statutory list too, but the one from the regulations is more complete. The statutes only contain the original list, whereas the regulations also include all species added by the Commission.)
ya i know of the list im just mentioning it because where they are legal in the US u should get these insted of the snake headOddball said:
and also most of the fish on that list are sold and i own alot of fish off the list to
