BP and Midevil Fertility Question

[Kaliedoscope]

Before I say this, sorry I don't have pics of the eggs.


So here's the quandry:

So I have a midevil male that has a really nice red colour, so I've been trying to breed him to blood parrot females in hopes of getting rose quens, kkp or something like that (you know, random stuff).

So before, I had him in a little pond, then a breeder tank, with a female BP I got from petsmart. They paired off right away, and she laid for him on three seprate occasions. however, the eggs never turned that darker amberish colour that my convict's eggs get when they're fertilized, and on all three seprate occasions, they guarded them for a few days and then ate them when they started to get fungus.

Because of this, I assumed the BP female must not have been fertile so I sold her. I have many BP's from different suppliers (I only got that one fish from petsmart), so I put him with my other females and he chose the biggest best female, and they paired off.
I moved them to a breeding tank and a few days ago (or it might have been yesterday, thats when I noticed them), she laid for him. They were guarding them together, but again, the eggs didn't change colour,
but instead were always white/opaqueish clear, and today they ate them. Now he's guarding the pot and he chased her off.

So my question is this:
Since the BP's were from totally different suppliers, and this is my most fecund female (although this is the first time she's laid with a male in my tank)
what are the chances that the midevil male isn't fertile, or just isn't fertilizing the eggs?

They looked the same both times, so should I try him with a different female, or should I just try her with a different male?

the midevil male I got from petsmart as well when he was a baby, so there is a possibility of hormone injection to get a better colour, I don't know if they do this with their devils' but they obviously do it with their tiger oscars.

So what's the probability that it's the males' fault?

I have a different male midas, and several smaller female BP, so I could do both, but what do you think I should do?


I'm getting kind of frustrated with this.. I really want some midas x bp babies to raise.

also, if anyone has a proven BP female, one that has laid eggs that have hatched and survived, would they consider selling her to me?

I could also trade you for some of my unproven females if you'd like.
I really want some babies

What should I do?

Thanks

 

[Kaliedoscope]

bump this is the most important of my threads

 

[Chrisplosion]

How old is the Midas?

 

[Desert Bus]

Swap the Midevil for a different fish. Swapping BP's isn't working out so well, and a BP plus a fish that looks better than the Midevil could produce some interesting results, especially if you wander off the beaten path.

Try one of the Vieja or a Red Terror or a Jaguar. So many possibilities.

 

[Kaliedoscope]

yeah I have a big fene, what do you think the chances are of that?
The BP's a little larger than a softball and the fene is about 7-8 in.

And the midevil is about 5 in long, so he's still relativeley young. The bp would have been his first mate in life and the second parrot would have been his second

 

[Kaliedoscope]

chris, this pair you have (had?) are almost exactly identical in size ratio and looks to my pair. Did this pairing work out for you? I was gunna do the same thing

http://www.youtube.com/user/darthgir2#p/u/6/OV_VUTdrRbs

 

[Chrisplosion]

chris, this pair you have (had?) are almost exactly identical in size ratio and looks to my pair. Did this pairing work out for you? I was gunna do the same thing

http://www.youtube.com/user/darthgir2#p/u/6/OV_VUTdrRbs

I only tried twice before I rehomed him, he only tried to fertilize once so I got no fry. My male was about 9" and the female 7". Give your male some time, wait another month or two and he should be ready.