Breeding multiple species and variants questions

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Nepherael

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Hi there. I'm a fairly new fish owner but I have some different fish breeding and I have a few questions about it.

Forst, I have breeding mollies, guppies, and glofish currently. I am also hoping to breed angelfish. Can fry from multiple species co exist or will I need to worry about bigger fry eating slightly smaller newborn fry?

Also, if I have say 2 different looking angelfish (say one has black and white stripes and the other is koi) would their offspring give me a bunch of each kind or would it look like some mix and possibly turn out washed out looking and like some new cross breed?

Thank you for any insight
 
Since I only have the one 10g tank for breeding I'm trying to figure out if I should just get a few more breeder nets to keep the different species fry apart or if they will be ok swimming together. Mollies, glofish, and guppies.
 
Both mollies and guppies are livebearers so they give birth to live young which are larger than that of the angel and glofish young. So I would try avoid mixing them. The livebearer young would be okay in a breeder net whilst I would leave the others in a tank of their own.

Angelfish are cichlids. Cichlids take exemplery care of their eggs and fry forthe most part and angelfish are no exception. They can become very terotorial when breeding so I would seperate them from the guppies and such.

If you do a quick search on google of how to breed angelfish, you should be up to date in a matter of minutes.

As for glofish, I am very unneducated on this species so Ican offer little help on this one. Maybe the useof a spawning mop may work (google it).

I hope some of this info helped!
 
I have done quite a bit of reading though I still feel completely uneducated. Thank you for the tips and I will look up a spawning mop. I've probably read/skimmed over 20 different spawning/breeding resources and have not seen a breeding mop mentioned once. I will look into it once.

Thank you again, I was hoping for a reply as this is probably my favorite part of the forum =)

For anyone else still checking into this I'm not very good with genetics as far as knowing what multiple variants of certain species will produce. I know you can make hybrids of some fish like parrots and Dempseys (I think) and you will get certain genes that show and a mix of traits from each but does that apply to my earlier example of angelfish? I'll repeat, say I ave a gold veil that pairs off with a koi angelfish, will they produce kind of a mix looking or will I see a divide between koi baby fry and gold veils, or will it be both and just give me fry of all types. I only ask this ecause I'm not very educated on what certain fish are. There are platinum, gold veil, koi, blue angelfish and more and I don't know of those are variants that have been cross bred to create or if they are found like that in the wild. Know what I mean? I'm probably making that question and thought process a lot harder than it is but there's just some things I try to wrap my head around it just doesn't happen XD
 
Glad I could help! :)

As for the angels, it's a lucky dip. Some will end up like mum, some like dad, some a mix. Its completely random unless you know the linniage of the fish. I.e it's parents, and their parents, etc.

The koi angel for example, may have had a black angel and a koi angel as parents, and turned out koi - however, it will carry the black gene. Meaning some of the fry may turn out black. Just an example.

As for the veil tailed, it's very similar. Some will some wont. Just the luck of the draw.
 
Gotcha that's what I figured but being told reinforces it. At this point I'm very worried that some of the fish I get might be 6th gen or close to it and then pair up with a sibling even if I get half a dozen from 2 sources. I've read that getting that far down the line is just no good. I have an extra 50g around that I'd like to setup as an angel tank and I'm very excited about the breeding aspect of it, just worried I'm gonna get bad breeding stock (and it's not like I have $50-100 to invest in a proven mated pair that is good stock, especially since I'm doing this as a hobby and not specifically to profit)
 
Maybe look into getting some F1 or such from some of the vendors on here. It'd probably be cheap enough to get 4-6 of those (I always find that enough to get a pair) and let them pair off. I would be mkre inclined to buy f2 fish than ones which were untracable.

F0 = wild caught fish
F1 = fish from wild caught parents
F2 = fish from F1 parents
and so on...

I don't mean to come across condescending, just wanted to make sure you knew F#.
 
No, thank you (not no thank you but as in no Sony worry, thank you for saying it XD) I've only heard the terms a couple times so reinforcing it helps.

Yeah I've been hoping I could find someone on here that bred fairly close to me or was willing to ship. I am really into the angels (their looks obviously but also their egg laying habits and the fact that they're community fish). I've been skimming a lot of the resources on here and I'm really looking forward to getting lucky and finding someone that has some sort of operation or just breeds them as a hobby and work something out with them
 
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