Brighter Marineland LED

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Jake Adams

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Hey Guys, did you see the new LED light that Marineland is putting out? They are calling it "Reef Capable" but if it can grow corals, it can definitely make enough light to illuminate our lovely fishes Reef Capable LED.

I think general lighting discussion for making fish look good is woefully lacking in aquarium forums, I hope this light will make my geophagus and blue eye plecos pop with colors. Should have one early next week.

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Maybe I'm in the stone age, but I haven't seen any LED systems put out for aquariums. Is this the first? What size are you getting and what's the cost?

Please take some shots of your tank with before/after pics....would love to see them once they're set up.
 
I currently have one of these (it's different, but yeah): http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+3733+21973&pcatid=21973 Marineland Double Bright LEDs, bought the 36-48" one.

I'll be completely honest, it's an amazing light and I love the "moonlight" and "daylight" setting, however the underside feels flimsy. The top is sturdy of course, but the underside where the lights are located is thin and flexible. The product doesn't seem like it would be worth $135, but I'm happy with it anyway.

Oh, and another plus to these that I love is the shimmer effect they cause in the water. Definitely makes the aquarium seem more realistic and natural.

I wouldn't doubt that the new light they just released would be able to grow corals, the double bright has 1/3rd the LEDs and it's output is insane.

**EDIT: Cookie, plug "marineland LED" into Youtube and you'll get some video hits with before and after displays. I looked those up before I bought mine. It seems more dull in the videos than it really is, though.
 
Think this is one of the first commercial units to come out for aquaria. DIY'ers have been building them for a few years now.

Surprised Marineland is just using the 1W LEDs instead of going for the more efficient/intense 3-5W. Might actually see some value then if they used those and kept the same price point. :) I can put together a 42 LED panel (3-5W Cree LEDs) for less than $200. Marineland wants $449.00 for the same setup using just 1W LEDs. 2.5 times more expensive for 60%+ less light. I think I'll stick with DIY. :)
 
ive seen the original LED marineland lights and it was pathetic. very dim lighting. definitely not enough to grow plants or corals. theyre mostly for fish viewing. and to be honest, i dont think these will be any better.

There is one brand of LED that I KNOW for a fact can truly grow plants and corals. my LFS carries them. they are the SunBright brand. the output is insane, but they are ungodly expensive. a single 4ft bulb will run you $300+, and for a reef tank, youll need several bulbs. and keep in mind this doesnt include the fixture. a complete fixture with bulbs will run you $1500+. so when this $199 fixture claims it will grow corals, i have to call BS.

this is what the SunBright fixture looks like

 
that is barely enough for freshwater plants, let alone corals which demand a lot more light than plants:

With a peak intensity of 130 umol of PAR at 12 inches and 64 umol at 24 inches
 
jcardona1;4419419; said:

Wow. Do you know by chance how many watts that thing draws? If those are 1W LEDs, that is insane.

If they are the 5mm or 10mm 'lite-brite' LEDs, I wouldn't spend my money on them. Most lite-brite panels on the market are mass produced garbage out of hong kong or china. Compare them side by side with a true high output LED system and you'll never look back.
 
Dark Jester;4419441;4419441 said:
Wow. Do you know by chance how many watts that thing draws? If those are 1W LEDs, that is insane.

If they are the 5mm or 10mm 'lite-brite' LEDs, I wouldn't spend my money on them. Most lite-brite panels on the market are mass produced garbage out of hong kong or china. Compare them side by side with a true high output LED system and you'll never look back.
an 8-bulb 4ft fixture draws 130w. its a china-based company, but dont let that fool you. there's a lot of hype in the reef world for a reason, these fixtures are BLINDING!

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/general-discussion/59482-sun-brite-led-systems.html
 
more...

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The second generation LED tubes from SunBrite are a 180 degree turnaround from the rocky start of SunBrite’s first LED lighting offering. After going back to the drawing table, the company has not only strongly shored up the tubular LED platform but they have also reinvented themselves as a company and the way they make their tubes. Whereas the first generation LED tube was a complete OEM with no heatsink, 5mm LEDs and a crummy power supply, calling the new handmade LED tube a second generation effort is a serious understatement. Sunbrite’s LED tubes are now made from components with five or six custom molds. The significant heatsink distributes over 10 grams of mass per watt of LED. These new tubes are using Cree-based, Edison and BridgeLux LEDs and the diodes are purchased without primary optics so SunBrite can apply their own, custom-designed primary optic with a native directivity of 60 degrees. Finally, all the diodes are hand-soldered to their PCB in SunBrite’s own factory where all the gen2 tubes are assembled in house. Perhaps the only downgrade from the original SunBrite LED tube is the lack of fine differences between color temperatures of the 5mm LEDs and the high powered one watters that are found in the Gen2. However, SunBrite makes up for it by offering a vast diversity of color combinations of lamps with white, blue, royal blue, red and UV LEDs. The even spread of a bank of these LED tubes rocking efficient primary optics makes for some respectably high PAR numbers which we will revisit in a subsequent post. In the meantime, more information about colors, sizing and pricing can be viewed on SunBrite’s own webpage and be sure to follow the break for lots more pictures of the second generation LED tuebs from SunBrite LED.

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Sunbrite UVA LED with emission peak at 370nm

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Red LED for supporting strong "vegetative" growth

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You can see the beam of the 60 degree primary optic against the plastic cover right over it.

original Sunbrite tube on the left, gen2 on the right

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The custom made plastic endcap makes the Gen2 LED tube appear a lot more thought out in design. Original Sunbrite tube on the right, gen2 on the left

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original Sunbrite tube on the left, gen2 on the right. The heatsink for the 24", 13 watt model on the right is 148 grams, versus none for the old 11 watter.


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The LEDs of Sunbrite's second generation tubes are all hand-sodered. Notice the generous amount of solder gripping this diode to it's PCB.

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Sunbrite LEDs are blessed with one of the first custom made primary optics with a native 60 degree directivity

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Every part of the new gen2 LED tubes from SunBrite are serviceable. We can imagine a lot of DIY efforts getting thrown at this newly ruggedized format for LED lighting.

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The power supply driver for the Gen2 LED tubes fits inside of the heatsink of the tube.

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