bush administration is going DOWN

[phene4grene420]

i dont know how far ahead you guys are, or how behind i am.....but take a look at this..........

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com


The Downing Street "Memo" is actually a document containing meeting minutes transcribed during the British Prime Minister's meeting on July 23, 2002—a full eight months PRIOR to the invasion of Iraq on March 20, 2003. The Times of London printed the text of this document on Sunday, May 1, 2005, but to date US media coverage has been limited. This site is intended to act as a resource for anyone who wants to understand the facts revealed in this document.
The contents of the memo are shocking. The minutes detail how our government did not believe Iraq was a greater threat than other nations; how intelligence was "fixed" to sell the case for war to the American public; and how the Bush Administration’s public assurances of "war as a last resort" were at odds with their privately stated intentions.

When asked, British officials "did not dispute the document's authenticity." and a senior American official has described it as "absolutely accurate." Yet the Bush administration continues to simultaneously sidestep the issue while attempting to cast doubt on the memo’s authenticity.

Nobody wants to go to war. We trust our leaders to shed blood in our name only when absolutely necessary. But the facts revealed by the Downing Street Memo force us to ask ourselves: Was I misled? Did President Bush tell me the truth when he said he would not take us to war unless absolutely necessary?

More than two years after the start of the Iraq War, Americans are just learning that our government was dead set on invasion, even while it claimed to be pursuing diplomacy. Please join us in demanding that we get to the bottom of this issue.

 

[PeacockBass]

Nobody wants to go to war. We trust our leaders to shed blood in our name only when absolutely necessary.

Speak for your self.

I am all for war if it helps our country in anyway. If I had MY way we would own Iraq and just about every other country who would not submit to my power.

 

[phene4grene420]

Speak for your self.

I am all for war if it helps our country in anyway. If I had MY way we would own Iraq and just about every other country who would not submit to my power.

those weren't my words...i was simply quoting the front page of the link i had posted.

war proves nothing though...it only proves who has a stronger army, intelligence not included. we went to Iraq for no reason at all though. Bush had his mind set on invading iraq from the beginning.....regardless of their so called 'weapons of mass destruction'.

 

[PeacockBass]

those weren't my words...i was simply quoting the front page of the link i had posted.

war proves nothing though...it only proves who has a stronger army, intelligence not included. we went to Iraq for no reason at all though. Bush had his mind set on invading iraq from the beginning.....regardless of their so called 'weapons of mass destruction'.

I dont care for WOMD or if he was a threat.

I just hope we get alot of oil out of this.

Modern war wont solve anything. In order for war to accomplish something extravagant, one needs to follow in hitlers footsteps.

All nations should be united as one. That way there will be no more large scale wars. Just smaller civil wars fought between the system and rebels.

With no large scale wars being fought, people can concentrate on exploring space and ways to preserve earth. Civilization can thrive with no threat.

Earth needs to be united as a single democracy.


Although, war brings about new inventions that aid man kind... heh.




Genocide is the only path to true peace.

 

[phene4grene420]

Modern war wont solve anything. In order for war to accomplish something extravagant, one needs to follow in hitlers footsteps.

All nations should be united as one. That way there will be no more large scale wars. Just smaller civil wars fought between the system and rebels.

With no large scale wars being fought, people can concentrate on exploring space and ways to preserve earth. Civilization can thrive with no threat.

Earth needs to be united as a single democracy.

about the hitler comment - do you post on the candiria forums? lol because i put a thread there about this same topic and somebody brought him up right away.

but you're wrong about hitler....he wanted kill off anybody who didn't fit his 'perfect' race. race has nothing to do with this war. killing off is not the answer to anything.

i do however, agree to the 'earth needs to be united as a single democracy'....sort of. the earth is too huge to be ran by one ruler. but to have many rulers running DEMOCRACIES would be a good idea. commies

 

[PeacockBass]

about the hitler comment - do you post on the candiria forums? lol because i put a thread there about this same topic and somebody brought him up right away.

but you're wrong about hitler....he wanted kill off anybody who didn't fit his 'perfect' race. race has nothing to do with this war. killing off is not the answer to anything.

i do however, agree to the 'earth needs to be united as a single democracy'....sort of. the earth is too huge to be ran by one ruler. but to have many rulers running DEMOCRACIES would be a good idea. commies

Thats not all he wanted. Hitler wanted a perfect world ruled by 1 government. There can never be true peace with different races, and he knew this.

Also, this war like almost all wars results in differences of 2 sides. This war has alot to do with race and ways of life.

There will NEVER be peace if there is variety.

Genocide is the only path to true peace.

 

[piranha45]

definitely a valid argument, we won't be going into deep space colonizing mars and kicking alien ass till the planet unites... and if we don't do it soon we're gonna die off, cuz in another hundred years the earth's resources will be drained and this place will prolly be a god damn wasteland.

but then again, I won't be around that much longer, so what do I care if the human race expands or not? In another 60 yrs I'll be dead or prolly wishing I was dead.

 

[piranha45]

I understand Hitler did great things for the Germany, which was his intention. He took from other countries and lavished upon his own, which is a perfectly respectable because that's what countless conquerors throughout history have done, and nobody rakes the images of those guys. He had questionable psychological motives though.

The only thing he did wrong from a tactical perspective was initiate a war with two fronts, which was beyond his military capacity. The only thing he did wrong from most ppls' moral perspectives (those moral perspectives of which I disagree with) was cause genocide, which turned his public image from a generic conqueror to a big bad crazy supervillain in the eyes of the rest of the world, a stereotype which most people attempt to capitalize on in any discussion regarding him.

well, we all have our opinions



my problem with Bush is that it seems from what I've gathered that the entire war was just a front to enrich Haliburton. We the general public didn't get the oil; Haliburton got the oil. Here's how the money seems to have gone....
American Taxes < US Military < Haliburton
so basically, our tax dollars and deepening federal deficit went to Haliburton to make a handful of CEOs and stockholders into multibillionaires
Since I'm a taxpayer I declare that to not in my interests and am thereby upset.

I can't say I'm not a bit irked that we gave out 100 billion to iraq, either. What that meant is that every American had to shell out several hundred dollars to the iraqi people. That's bull****.

 

[Josh]

I dont care for WOMD or if he was a threat.

I just hope we get alot of oil out of this.

Modern war wont solve anything. In order for war to accomplish something extravagant, one needs to follow in hitlers footsteps.

All nations should be united as one. That way there will be no more large scale wars. Just smaller civil wars fought between the system and rebels.

With no large scale wars being fought, people can concentrate on exploring space and ways to preserve earth. Civilization can thrive with no threat.

Earth needs to be united as a single democracy.


Although, war brings about new inventions that aid man kind... heh.




Genocide is the only path to true peace.

You've officially made it back on my sh*t list.

 

[Jay R.]

bush must be a real genuis to fool so many people. even the french and german governments had evidence in their own systems of Iraq's WMD's. bush must have planted that sometime before he got into office. france and germany had an arrangment and made a lot of money from Iraq. thats why they didn't want to go in. and all the reports of conveys going into libia and syria of large trucks. what do you thinks those were? couldn't have been WMD's. military has said ithats where they went, showed satilite photo's press won't cover thta. not as good of a story as a lyeing governement. same reason they never report about guns used in legal self defense, only in crimes. don't know if anyone has cought it yet... but guess what..... the press is LIBERAL!