Can anyone tell me what this is?!
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is that one of the "borneo rays" flooding the uk at the moment probably bleekeri, if so they need to be cared for like the so called florida rays. even if they were caught in freshwater at the very least they need brackish.
they have not evolved like potamotrygon to live in freswater properly. they produce huge amounts of ammonia constantly which in the wild is washed away/diluted by the massive rivers they inhabit!
dont know of any long term succes in freshwater of these fish. i might be wrong but that is how i understand it.
i am sure some of the so called importers/retailers here will try to tell you otherwise so they can sell them to you.
also they have extremely long tails making them difficult to house properly, i mean how many people have four foot wide tanks!!!
they have not evolved like potamotrygon to live in freswater properly. they produce huge amounts of ammonia constantly which in the wild is washed away/diluted by the massive rivers they inhabit!
dont know of any long term succes in freshwater of these fish. i might be wrong but that is how i understand it.
i am sure some of the so called importers/retailers here will try to tell you otherwise so they can sell them to you.
also they have extremely long tails making them difficult to house properly, i mean how many people have four foot wide tanks!!!
Bicester;3599328; said:
sorry i shall have a look in the aqualog when i get home from work. they have good line drawings of all the himantura's. trouble is when small they are all very similar but your pic is quite good and the markings around the tail are clear.
ill let you know tomorrow
I could be wrong, but that's a uranak by the looks. A bigger pic would be nice. Spots between the honeycomb and leopard rays look similar from a distance. Young of both have the distinct point at the nose of the disk.
Those get pretty big, and are saltwater.
This is an adult honeycomb (uranak).
Those get pretty big, and are saltwater.
This is an adult honeycomb (uranak).
I believe that all of the possibles you were told are incorrect.
That fish appears to be a Himantura Krempfi also known as the Asian Tiger Stingray.
H. alcockii does not have the pronounced sharp nose it is rounder and they lack markings on the tail. Colorartion is dark olive-brown with numerous small light dots.
H. bleekeri has a brown underbelly with a white elongated white spot in the center of the belly.
H. draco is brown with a light colored disc edge that contains dark spots.
H oxyrhynchus in my opinion is the most beautiful of the Himanturas and is most similar to the ray you pictured but has a tail nearly 4-5 times the disc length, so if this fish has a tail that is extremely long it's possible it's an Oxy.
As far as H. uranak goes, the honey-combing/leopard spotting just isn't there. Even in the juvenile stages these fish maintain the same striking coloration as the adult.
Again, strictly from the photo posted I'd go with H krempfi. This fish grows to about 40cm (DW) comes from the Phraya and Mekong basins and should be kept in brackish water.
That fish appears to be a Himantura Krempfi also known as the Asian Tiger Stingray.
H. alcockii does not have the pronounced sharp nose it is rounder and they lack markings on the tail. Colorartion is dark olive-brown with numerous small light dots.
H. bleekeri has a brown underbelly with a white elongated white spot in the center of the belly.
H. draco is brown with a light colored disc edge that contains dark spots.
H oxyrhynchus in my opinion is the most beautiful of the Himanturas and is most similar to the ray you pictured but has a tail nearly 4-5 times the disc length, so if this fish has a tail that is extremely long it's possible it's an Oxy.
As far as H. uranak goes, the honey-combing/leopard spotting just isn't there. Even in the juvenile stages these fish maintain the same striking coloration as the adult.
Again, strictly from the photo posted I'd go with H krempfi. This fish grows to about 40cm (DW) comes from the Phraya and Mekong basins and should be kept in brackish water.