can some one help id these two fh

[reddevilflowerhorn]

 

[BastardFish]

both female red dragon zz strain one is Crap grade and the other one is decent B grader. I would keep the second one and lose the other one before she gets to much bigger

 

[reddevilflowerhorn]

sorry bro i'm trying to id the two ugly fish in the first and second pic. someone told me kamfa???

 

[Gage]

first one looks like a really ugly ZZ IMO and the second one is a convict hybrid

 

[reddevilflowerhorn]

thanks i was wondering what i have but the one is starting to be covered with matellic green all over the body