Can someone sex my two cichlids plz?

[tobegr]

The first one is a 8 inches Hybrid ( texas X vieja)
The second one is a 6 onches wild caught Umbee. I bought a small group of 4 ,hoping to get one male. This one is the biggest.

Thanks !

 

[MP_cichlid]

1st looks male, second looks female, can u post pics of them in the water too

 

[MP_cichlid]

actually they both might be females now that I look closer. But still post pic of them in the water.

 

[tobegr]

photos of them in the water

 

[Ihsnshaik]

I can never vent them properly they all look the same to me anyway. I usually know a male and a female by my large red devil. Took me 4 years to realize my red devil was a male.. No hump but was large and started to breed

 

[tobegr]

I can never vent them properly they all look the same to me anyway. I usually know a male and a female by my large red devil. Took me 4 years to realize my red devil was a male.. No hump but was large and started to breed

lol me too! I even searched on webs for the venting pics of males and females cichlids, the forms of the vents are very different between species.
I bought 4 Umbees to get a male if all of them are females, I have to buy more...ahhh

 

[MP_cichlid]

do the other ones have a black dorsal mark?

 

[tobegr]

do the other ones have a black dorsal mark?

No,it doesn't have. But I've seen some females without black mark on dorsal fin on the webs...

 

[tanyaelec11]

the bottom picture to me looks more like a kraussi rather than an umbee. I could be wrong because of the lighting and such but it really looks like one !

 

[tanyaelec11]

scratch that one above lol I zoomed in . It was the lighting !