The first one is a flowerhorn from a chain store labeled as such. The second is likely the result of a red devil x texas cichlid from LFS here. I bought a Golden Fader from there too that turned black and now is turning a nice yellow and pink...still very ugly but we will see what it turns into. They are living with a bunch of other central Americans in a 150g. The first flowerhorn and King Rowdy, my Green Texas Escondido, are always fighting over one particular cave where a female blood parrot keeps trying to spawn at. There is six foot of PVC caves beneath the substrate and in the mounds