Caring for injured fish

[meiling]

I have often thought of this, so I'm finally gonna ask everyone's idea's here:

I know when our Aro's (any fish really) aren't in good health the rule of thumb is to up the heat and add salt. Fish are cold blooded, this makes sense to get the blood circulating better to aid in healing.

HOWEVER, if it's a trauma injury, headbash, swelling, bruising, especially to the brain area, it seems like for the inital 24-36 hrs that cooler water would be what stops bleeding and swelling. If it's the head, there's no room for the bruised brain to swell, it seems heat might make the injury worse. This could create even excess eye pressure-possible a contribution to d.e. (STOP RIGHT HERE WITH THE DE ARGUMENTS), that's not really the point of this thread.

I know with humans, (but we're warmblooded), we ice down injuries to stop bleeding and swelling, thus preventing further damage. So wouldn't initial cool or same temp, then after the inital injury has stopped bleeding, like 24 hrs later, what about waiting to add the higher temp to increase blood flow, and then the wound would benefit. Plus heat increases activity when the fish should rest and heal and stay calm, we all know jumpy a freshly whacked Aro is.

I'm not arguing that heat and salt help, but wondered if anyone out there has idea's or fish medical training. When my Aro's did bruise, I tried my theory and the injury did seem to heal quite fast.

Anyone else ever think about this?

 

[Miguel]

Girl you could be suggesting that there is no moon or that the earth is, as a matter of fact, a football!! WHAT MATTERS IS YOU'RE HERE!!!!!!!

I agree with everything, but everything, you post for the next week!!!!!

 

[DeLgAdO]

I have often thought of this, so I'm finally gonna ask everyone's idea's here:

I know when our Aro's (any fish really) aren't in good health the rule of thumb is to up the heat and add salt. Fish are cold blooded, this makes sense to get the blood circulating better to aid in healing.

HOWEVER, if it's a trauma injury, headbash, swelling, bruising, especially to the brain area, it seems like for the inital 24-36 hrs that cooler water would be what stops bleeding and swelling. If it's the head, there's no room for the bruised brain to swell, it seems heat might make the injury worse. This could create even excess eye pressure-possible a contribution to d.e. (STOP RIGHT HERE WITH THE DE ARGUMENTS), that's not really the point of this thread.

I know with humans, (but we're warmblooded), we ice down injuries to stop bleeding and swelling, thus preventing further damage. So wouldn't initial cool or same temp, then after the inital injury has stopped bleeding, like 24 hrs later, what about waiting to add the higher temp to increase blood flow, and then the wound would benefit. Plus heat increases activity when the fish should rest and heal and stay calm, we all know jumpy a freshly whacked Aro is.

I'm not arguing that heat and salt help, but wondered if anyone out there has idea's or fish medical training. When my Aro's did bruise, I tried my theory and the injury did seem to heal quite fast.

Anyone else ever think about this?

your talkin as if arowana have large complex brains women!

they are tiny and simple if it was to swell which is highly unlikely it still wouldnt take up enough space to push the eyes out and downward.

turning up the heat and adding salt: the main purpose of that is to keep microrganisms from causing infection, most pathogen cant thrive in the increased temperature and the higher salinity. and all this aids the fishes immune system to combat infection long enough for the healing process to begin.

 

[Miguel]

Delgado, more finesse when addressing this dame, please....

 

[DeLgAdO]

Delgado, more finesse when addressing this dame, please....

i change for no one!

and she knows this , i miss those pm convers though

 

[Miguel]

i change for no one!

One day you'll change my friend...be assured of that....

 

[meiling]

Thanks for the input Del, but all I was talking about was stopping bruising and bleeding, for the initial injury. You're right about the purpose of salt and heat, but if it's an injury with no open wound, then there's little chance of infection. Yes, I know the poor Aro's don't have much going on upstairs, but they have a brain and skull that is Aro size. It's still gonna swell and increase cranial pressure, thus still leading to maybe a more severe damage.

Thanks for your input though-That's why I posted, to get opinions, so we all may not agree or we may all agree. Either way, that's OK.

 

[DeLgAdO]

Thanks for the input Del, but all I was talking about was stopping bruising and bleeding, for the initial injury. You're right about the purpose of salt and heat, but if it's an injury with no open wound, then there's little chance of infection. Yes, I know the poor Aro's don't have much going on upstairs, but they have a brain and skull that is Aro size. It's still gonna swell and increase cranial pressure, thus still leading to maybe a more severe damage.

Thanks for your input though-That's why I posted, to get opinions, so we all may not agree or we may all agree. Either way, that's OK.

ohhhhh ok

like under the skin injurys? hmmmmmm

 

[meiling]

Yeah that's what I mean. Just after it happens (and the skin isn't broken, this is an excellent observation you had) I've had human medical training, and have worked with vets, but not fish. I'm just meaning, get the blood vessels to shut down a bit to slow then stop the bleeding (internal), first 24 hrs, then let the fish heal with heat and salt. The salt could be added right away, it doesn't have to wait for warmer water.

 

[andsco]

in order for my fish's brain to swell, he would actuall have to have a brain.
sometimes I question whether or not he has one.