there from vontihillo , i got them from ira . they were blue/green before they bred but they've been darker since then with there bottom half being solid black and there color is totally different now , they are totally grey . pretty soon they gotta go and if your local you can just pick some up . i'm probably gonna separate them soon and just feed them for a while and check them out in regular dress . they are good parents and i feel they'll breed non stop , they've already been acting funny for a couple of days . oh ya , one is bigger and that's the male .