Catch, keep, release

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Jack Dempsey
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If you catch a bass in a lake, bring it home for a month or two, realize you made a mistake and take it back to the same lake or body of water you got it from, no harm no foul. Alot of people get on here and cry bloody murder about catching a fish and then releasing it into the wild. Needs to be understood that yes it is COMPLETELY unethical to release a non native fish into a foreign water system. Such as catching a muskie in Michigan and releasing it in Texas. But to release say, a LMB, into water where there are other native LMB, is not wrong. Its not much different than upgrading them from your 125g tank to say a 345 million gallon tank. If the argument is that you are potentially introducing new diseases / micro biology into an ecosystem, then what the hell kind of crap are you breeding in your aquarium? If the fish is healthy when you release it, the fish is healthy. Period. Its not going to miraculously spawn some new bacteria that is going to kill all the LMB in the new lake. Native fish are native fish. They move around bodies of water and in some cases can travel huge distances unwillingly through a water system from one lake to another in a downstream chain. So to have a cow about catching a LMB, keeping it awhile, and then releasing it into another lake say 30-40 miles away that also contains native LMB, is silly. The fish will adapt, just as it adapted to your home aquarium. For example, if it were so wrong to raise fish in captivity and then release it into a lake, state fish hatcheries would be responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of fish every year. And if releasing a tank raised fish could be a cause of a new disease strain that would kill all the fish in a lake, then the state would have by now figured out that they shouldnt raise fry and then release them into the water system. I fully understand that common sense isnt exactly widespread these days, but a little of it can go a long way when dealing with this topic. Dont transport wild fish from one states body of water to another states body of water if the states do not have interconnecting waterways. Dont introduce non native species to ANY ecosystem. Sorry for the rant but I just get tired of some folks getting on here and belittling other people about this topic when the only reason they do so is because they saw someone else say something about it in a post they read somewhere. :screwy:
 
So lets say someone decides keep a large mouth bass with a cichlid (or any non native fish). Isn't it possible that the cichlid could be a carrier for a disease or parasite and pass it along to the bass? Maybe the cichlid has adapted to be immune to said disease or parasite, but the bass isn't. Just because the fish LOOKS healthy doesn't necessarily mean that it is healthy, so you really might be doing more harm than you think.
 
Not only is it unethical due to the possible spread of non-native disease, it's illegal. Besides this fact, you are right. If you dumped a fish in the same lake where you got it from, there will probably not be any spread of disease. Most likely, nothing will happen. It's not the 99.9% that is the problem, it's the .1% that is. Disease can be introduced into a fish tank through many means. Some of these can be carried by a fish without symptoms, just as genital warts is often carried in people with no symptoms (1 in 4 have the virus, most don't even know it). The potential for disease transmission can be carried in many different ways, especially in the food we feed our fish. It only takes one mistake to infect a lake, and it only takes one bird eating an infected fish to spread it to another lake. That is the reason for the law, and it's a good one. The other obvious issue here is people taking fish for the purpose of keeping them with no intention of caring for the fish throughout it's life. Just as you can put a baby Red Tailed Catfish in a ten gallon, it will very soon need a new home. Obviously it's a terrible idea to release the non-native fish into a local body of water as the risk is magnified, and is illegal as well. There are plenty of threads bashing people for having these monsters in a tank too small with no means of housing them for life, and the same principle should apply to our native fish. If you can't keep it for life, leave it where it is.
 
You obviously haven't followed the effects and spread of VHS in North America. You may want to get off your high chair and read about it. Why is it that VHS is now found in areas far away from the original affected area?

1) It is illegal in most states and if not, it should be.
2) Do you want to be responsible for spreading these diseases?

Is your house sanitized? Your water, the air you breathe, the pets you keep? How about the food you feed your fish?

If you live inside a vacuum, then ya, you probably won't do any harm.

And the argument about state fish stockers is a concern but not really. These fish do live in a controlled environment and are introduced into areas that are so far gone, that the fish don't really do any harm. They are treated with antibiotics from the day they are born.

Now, look at Conservation Fisheries. These folks raise species that are to point of extinction. If it wasn't for what they do, we'd have a few species less.

Bottom line... yeah, you probably won't do any harm, but why take the chance?
 
drewish;2144576; said:
Bottom line... yeah, you probably won't do any harm, but why take the chance?

Exactly my point. We're not dealing with "accidentally" introducing a diseased fish into an aquarium, we're dealing with an entire ecosystem. Is potentially ruining an ecosystem worth keeping a fish in an aquarium for a few months? And judging by my sticky and how many people agree with it, Venom, you're in the minority on this point.
 
I understand the rationale of Venom ( although if, being a member since august 08 Venom is already tired of flamimg, wait 'till you stay for a year or so , hehehe ), BUT, I will have to agree with Wurm. It's the odds of .1% of risk that is the trigger.
 
Next time just Catch, Keep, Eat
 
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