Catch location and variations

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For the past couple months, the polypterus section has gotten a lot of new members, which is great! Its always great to bring in new poly keepers. With the insurgence on new poly keepers, I have been seeing more and more emphasis put on the catch locations of the different species.

I just wanted to take the time to give everyone something to think about it and perhaps lessen the emphasis we, as poly keepers, are putting into these differences considering how incredibly close, for instance, all the variation of Endlicheri that have been showing up lately.

Here is a map to help illustrate how close these catch locations actually are together.
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As you can see, Dabola, Tikinsso, and Faranah are all extremely close together. Guinea, for reference, is just slightly larger than the state of florida. So, its probably safe to say all of these catch locations are within 100-200 miles of each other, if not closer.

Volta is the exception in this case, perhaps why Voltas do, in fact, have a more distinct look to them.

In the states, we dont distinguish between say, a largemouth bass caught in Maryland vs Virginia (which is a relatable distance in this case). So just some food for thought.

With that said, I obviously don't know the exact locations where our polypterus are being caught or how isolated they actually are from another to form physical differences and traits. Although, I personally believe most of the differences we see between catch locations is mostly due to genetics, with the outliers being Volta due to distance.

Again, these are just my opinions, and at the very least, something to be aware of for the newer polypterus keepers out there who might not understand various catch locations or where they actually are.
 
Well said bro. Was actually gonna post this pic the other night to a similar thread. For me i love endlis so the more the better but if someones going to get an endli other than a volta looking for big differences between the common catch location imo its a waste of time and money. Waaay to similar plus we are judging these fish based off each others opinions...substrate, lighting, and genetics play a part...geez even when someone has two from the same location on the same substrate they can look totally different.

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Owens - This is a great informative write up. I'm glad this was brought up. Gives an opportunity for those who are into poly keeping. Emphasizes how diverse the Polypterus Genus is in general.

Regarding the topic on variant and locale. I'll refer to the endli specie. Scientifically there's only one Polypterus endlicheri endlicheri. So, why add all the catch location label? Is it a marketing/sales tool to hike up cost, or is it just pure facts of where it is caught? In my opinion it boils down to an element that makes it all fun. It entices us individuals look up that region online, research it to the tee, view pictures, differentiation for the polys collected from area to area. The process is what makes it fun and educational. Even if the characteristics are similar. Such as in the case of Poypterus sp. Endlicheri Endlicheri.

Personally, don't think we are putting too much emphasis. It feels just right to me. I'm sure many share this view. Let's put this into perspective. It is no different than other fishes in our hobby. Why are we drawn to reputable vendors such as Jeff Rapps, Cichlids of America, Toyin, Wet Spot, and so many others? One element is that they are able to provide us with details such as catch location, varaiants, etc. As hobbyist, we tune in with questions about F0, F1, F2, Who the breeder is, if it is tank raise? It's what makes it all the more enjoyable.
 
Well said bro. Was actually gonna post this pic the other night to a similar thread. For me i love endlis so the more the better but if someones going to get an endli other than a volta looking for big differences between the common catch location imo its a waste of time and money. Waaay to similar plus we are judging these fish based off each others opinions...substrate, lighting, and genetics play a part...geez even when someone has two from the same location on the same substrate they can look totally different.

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That is true, i always buy two of each kind, i have two endli black volta but they dont look similar, one has bigger body, wider patterns and darker brown base color, compare to the other one thats more slimmer body and slimmer pattern and light brown bas color, i think genetics plays a huge part even they are caught in the same area.

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Regarding the topic on variant and locale. I'll refer to the endli specie. Scientifically there's only one Polypterus endlicheri endlicheri. So, why add all the catch location label? Is it a marketing/sales tool to hike up cost, or is it just pure facts of where it is caught?

lol, I think it is a giant conspiracy! To me they are all the same looking whether called Guinea endli, Dabola endli, Tinkisso endli, or even a Faranah for that matter. The Volta do look different to me and thats about it. Thats just my opinion. I really dont care what my endli is called, just like the characteristic it has.
 
lol, I think it is a giant conspiracy! To me they are all the same looking whether called Guinea endli, Dabola endli, Tinkisso endli, or even a Faranah for that matter. The Volta do look different to me and thats about it. Thats just my opinion. I really dont care what my endli is called, just like the characteristic it has.

Totally understand the conspiracy element to your statement. We are reliant on our reputable dealers and distributors for accurate collection piints. For me, it's the preferred features and characteristics that's more important. Those traits that assoiciate the 'Marketing Label' provided.

Facts aside on supposed catch location. I believe you've become very good at defining endli characteristics. If I send u 3 different endlicheri pics. Will u be able to pick out the dabola variant? If you get it right, there's a strong possibilty you've disproven your conspiracy theory. :-)

DMD123 DMD123 is it pic 1, 2, or 3?



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#1 Endli
#2 Endli
#3 Endli

lol, They are all just endli in the end.

Total guess on my part for #1 and #2, but #3 is mine and was sold as a Dabola (tinkisso river)
#1 guess would be Volta, #2 Faranah looking but then looks very Tinkisso to me also. These two mess me up the most
 
#1 Endli
#2 Endli
#3 Endli

lol, They are all just endli in the end.

Total guess on my part for #1 and #2, but #3 is mine and was sold as a Dabola (tinkisso river)
#1 guess would be Volta, #2 Faranah looking but then looks very Tinkisso to me also. These two mess me up the most
+1 on the guessing game, lolz

#1 Endli volta- it has alot of characteristics of a endli volta, wide pattern, longer head.
#2 faranah endli - looking at it and comparing to DMD's endli dabola, it has flatter head, and i was told that endli faranah's head stays flat even in adult size. Just my opinion.
 
That's assuming u r not tricking us and none of them r Dabola lol but if one is its the 3rd one ..... But honestly to me the 3rd looks like a tikinso mixed wit a milo lol
 
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