Catfish I.D.

[Adhie Nugroho]

Thanks, mate! To me it appears the answer may be very simple - the nigers get to pick and choose when offered both kinds simultaneously or when they are not too hungry. When mine are hungry or when they realize the pellets are not coming and today is a fish day, they start taking baitfish, cut and whole, off the bottom. It may take them a few minutes and they too may expel the fish out of their gills at the beginning.

My social media is this forum and email No FB. If you for some reason don't want to address your question to the whole forum, you could use PM (private message) or email feature. I don't mind at all, if I can really help, which is far from always being the case. That's what we are here for - to build up each other.

But most usually I am for asking the whole forum. As a community, we possess a million times greater knowledge than any one of us.

well, actually i always have issues with transferring files from my phone to my notebook -,-
what a shame of me..
here's the thing i want to ask..
view days ago, friend of mine bring me fishes he got while he's fishing at the river located on next city of my hometown, and he bring me those fishes and gave it to me, and as soon as i saw those fish, i realize it's hemibagrus family..but when i look closer at it, it's not wyckii or even wyckioides, i tought it's nemurus, but after i searched for some information (including here, pcf and fishbase) it's not nemurus..it has yellow colour, and it located on central java, indonesia, and as you know, it is very brutal..not just agressive..and i try to take a look for hemibagrus families on pcf, i found several same looking with this hemibagrus, but all of them are not origin from my area..it really look like these bagrus

https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=2418


but that pluriradiatus spread area is

"Asia: Nam Xam basin in Laos, Red River basin in Viet Nam and Yunnan, China and Mekong basin.
Laos Waters, Nam Xam (click on these areas to find other species found there)
Red River (Asia) (click on these areas to find other species found there)
China Waters, Yunnan Waters (click on these areas to find other species found there)
Mekong (click on these areas to find other species found there)

(Click the map-icon to show/hide map of species distribution)"


no java island written there..and as you know, i've already read a lot on this forums and i know that you're experienced hemibagrus keepers, i will ask you, if maybe you know which hemibagrus are this..

i'll try to upload pict here..since i can't find thread about how to upload pict here

i hope those picture uploaded..

any tought, viktor??

pardon me for bad pictures, my phone's camera are bad..

 

[moe214]

If wc it is very possible it is nemurus.

Below is the link to the taxonomic descriptions of the family. You can look through if you'd like.

https://lkcnhm.nus.edu.sg/nus/pdf/P...ology/Past Volumes/RBZ 61(1)/61rbz205-291.pdf

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

That's a very cool looking catfish, Adhie! Very unusual colors, indeed reminds me of nemurus... but, unfortunately, the only person that I am sure can help you is most definitely not me but Silurus on Planet Catfish aka Dr. Heok Hee Ng, who is the author of the latest Hemibagrus genus revision (his Masters thesis has been made into this revision after 17 years) and he is the one who split 3 species into 32 or some such number of species.

I have had the 3 species but ever since the split, the nemurus became a very hard one and I've not had the time to study the 32 species in depth. That's a huge and an ungrateful undertaking.

Secondly, you should have started your own thread with this question as this is completely off topic in this thread. We try to keep things on topic in every thread.

So I am suggesting you join the PCF start a thread in the "What's my catfish?" forum on the Planet and I will ask the mods to split off your question into its own thread here on MFK, ok?

 

[Adhie Nugroho]

If wc it is very possible it is nemurus.

Below is the link to the taxonomic descriptions of the family. You can look through if you'd like.

https://lkcnhm.nus.edu.sg/nus/pdf/PUBLICATION/Raffles Bulletin of Zoology/Past Volumes/RBZ 61(1)/61rbz205-291.pdf

yes it's a wc and i've just read the paper and you know what??it's different from nemurus, nemurus have brownish-grey colourbut not with this one, and nemurus back are high, this one are not..this one have yellowish-black colour, and flattered body than nemurus..that's why i still doubt if this one are nemurus..but from spread area of nemurus, yes, it's located between the location of nemurus spread area in the paper, in the paper spread area of nemurus are western java and east central java, a province named "jogjakarta", and my hometown are between those places,,just in the middle of where nemurus found in Dr. Ng's paper..

That's a very cool looking catfish, Adhie! Very unusual colors, indeed reminds me of nemurus... but, unfortunately, the only person that I am sure can help you is most definitely not me but Silurus on Planet Catfish aka Dr. Heok Hee Ng, who is the author of the latest Hemibagrus genus revision (his Masters thesis has been made into this revision after 17 years) and he is the one who split 3 species into 32 or some such number of species.

I have had the 3 species but ever since the split, the nemurus became a very hard one and I've not had the time to study the 32 species in depth. That's a huge and an ungrateful undertaking.

Secondly, you should have started your own thread with this question as this is completely off topic in this thread. We try to keep things on topic in every thread.

So I am suggesting you join the PCF start a thread in the "What's my catfish?" forum on the Planet and I will ask the mods to split off your question into its own thread here on MFK, ok?

well, okay, just tell mods to split my post because it's off topic..and you guess it's nemurus too??but you realize that the colour of that hemibagrus are different right??it's actually more yellow if you look it in the tank, not from picture..
and thanks, i will do your advice, i hope Dr. Ng can help me with this hemibagrus..and FYI viktor, it's already killed 5 of it's tankmates just 48 hrs after i put it together with others..it's really agressive..even with koi that twice it size..

 

[thebiggerthebetter]

..and you guess it's nemurus too??

Not at all. What was trying to say is that other than wyckii and wyckioides nd albino, farm-bred nemurus, I don't know anymore. I can't tell because I've not studied the revision.