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tomka123

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After setting up quite a few tanks from 20 gallon to now working on an 850 gallon, I was thinking this morning about a few things I like & do not like for big cichla tanks:

I DO NOT LIKE:
(1) I do not like big tanks with built in overflows... The bigger the cichla get the more aggressive they get. Not to mention simple math will show you that the space from the top of the water to the support brackets of the tank (& the lids) becomes less & less when it is considered in relation to the size of the fish. What this means is the space is more when compared to a little fish breaking the water to eat, but is much less when considering a big fish breaking the water... plus the big fish are more aggressive & coming out of the water more. I have witnessed this in my 180 gallon where the fish are finally getting to a size where they are all swimming around with their heads & top of their bodies scraped up from hitting the top of the tank.
(2) I do not like Acrylic tanks with openings cut out on top & overflows built in. Same principal here as above (fish hit their heads), but also the acrylic is tougher to clean when having to reach through the openings to get multiple areas inside the tank. Plus the acrylic you have to use special pads for cleaning the acrylic & be extra careful to watch for any sand getting caught on the pad which will scratch the acrylic terribly. AND lets not forget how much more expensive acrylic is than glass!
(3) I do not like Too much decoration in the "Big Fish Tanks". I have gone through the labor of making a tank look great, just to see these monsters constantly sweep the decorations throughout the tank! I have found open space with driftwood, some nice size riverstones placed sporadically throughout pool filter sand on the bottom, & maybe some fake foliage for color STRATEGICALLY placed.
(4) I do not like A completely empty tank with nothing in it but fish. For my enjoyment, I need some sort of landscape or it just doesn't do it for me. Plus I feel the fish like it more just because it creates more things going on which I feel creates more potential to stimulate the fish.

I LIKE:
(1) I like A glass tank. They are heavier, but that's not a problem in my opinion once you get to the big big tanks they are all heavy!
(2) I like A glass tank with no cuts in it. This tank has much less potential to break when moving. It also is easier to clean with 4 solid walls. It does not scratch nearly as easy as acrylic.
(3) I like A closed loop system with proper flow rate & back wash capability. This set-up has kept my biggest tank the easiest of all to maintain & clean.
(4) I like A sump mechanical & cannister biological. This set up has seemed to work very well with keeping my parameters good on the tanks that have it. Plus they are easy to diagnose an issue & maintain.
(5) I like no overflows... This is a big one for me... In my big tanks which are glass, no overflows, & plumbed "over the top" I can adjust the water height for the fish to splash less (& they splash!) & create less potential for them to hurt themselves on the top brackets & top covers.

I'm sure I am forgetting some & I bet others can add onto both these lists!
 
1. My tank is acrylic with overflows but my fish hitting the top during feeding isn't an issue for me because I lower my water level about 8inches before feeding by unplugging my sump pump.
2. I use a acrylic rated aqueon mag float for cleaning the sides and haven't really had any issues with it.
3. I agree I don't like too much decorations because it takes up swimming space, but I do like having something decoration wise.

Ime while a little more resistant, glass tanks scratch up easily too. I agree closed loops are great and not just for filtration but for doing a backflush/waterchange too. I personally like overflows because I get great results filtering the upper water column with a sump and overflows and filtering the lower water column with a closed loop. But everyone has something different that works for them.
 
1. My tank is acrylic with overflows but my fish hitting the top during feeding isn't an issue for me because I lower my water level about 8inches before feeding by unplugging my sump pump.
2. I use a acrylic rated aqueon mag float for cleaning the sides and haven't really had any issues with it.
3. I agree I don't like too much decorations because it takes up swimming space, but I do like having something decoration wise.

Ime while a little more resistant, glass tanks scratch up easily too. I agree closed loops are great and not just for filtration but for doing a backflush/waterchange too. I personally like overflows because I get great results filtering the upper water column with a sump and overflows and filtering the lower water column with a closed loop. But everyone has something different that works for them.

Also just from learning from Hulon, and Ken my filtration is expandable....for instance most of my biomedia is in my closed loop and If I need to add more, my sump has room for plenty more. And if I need more mechanical filtration or turnover I still have room to add my bigger pump to my closed loop.
 
I'm sure being into cichla you've searched dieselmacks and omojena cichla tanks. These guys were the kings of cichla keeping. They had plenty of substrate tons of monster fish. I'm not sure what dieselmack ran for filtration. I'm not into cichla but have a tank full of monster fish and I run a bare black bottom with a big pile of driftwood. It makes maintenance simple. I like the idea of a closed loop system without overflows taking up space but I don't really like the pricetag on setting one up. Maybe when I get rid of my 750 ill start researching more for the new tank. I used to have rocks gravel and plastic plants it looked awesome for a couple days until fish wrecked everything. The ONLY thing I like about my acrylic tank is how heavy the tops are and I don't worry about my monster aros jumping out .
 
You've basically listed everything about my setup as a dislike for you. I honestly wouldn't have it any other way.

I would never own a glass tank over 300 gal.
My overflow is centralized as well as rounded on all corners. No injuries possible.
My water level is adjustable by the slip fitting on my overflow.
I like natural decor. Fake plants just make me cringe. With proper plant selection, there is no reason one can't have a nice aesthetically planted tank with bass.





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1. My tank is acrylic with overflows but my fish hitting the top during feeding isn't an issue for me because I lower my water level about 8inches before feeding by unplugging my sump pump.
2. I use a acrylic rated aqueon mag float for cleaning the sides and haven't really had any issues with it.
3. I agree I don't like too much decorations because it takes up swimming space, but I do like having something decoration wise.

Ime while a little more resistant, glass tanks scratch up easily too. I agree closed loops are great and not just for filtration but for doing a backflush/waterchange too. I personally like overflows because I get great results filtering the upper water column with a sump and overflows and filtering the lower water column with a closed loop. But everyone has something different that works for them.

My issue is having 13 tanks & I just can't lower the water column in the tanks with the overflows every time I feed!
 
My issue is having 13 tanks & I just can't lower the water column in the tanks with the overflows every time I feed!

Yea I hear ya, that's why I said: "But everyone has something different that works for them."
 
There are natural amazon sword plants (with thick leaves) that will withstand lots of abuse from monster fish. I wouldn't set up a tank without natural plants. just my preference :-)
 
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