cichlid id ....yes i did search google

[Scotty]

You guys all sound like whatever thick skin you are refering to. The third pic is that of a Victorian Obliqueden latifasciata. The males have the red/orange and yellow colouring and the greyish colour can become quite black when showing some aggression. Please don't waste any more time trying to argue this as I have one of them in my tank. I will try and get some more pics posted for you all to see and will also post the exact scientific name. Well done DanePatrick as you were right from the start.

 

[danepatrick]

You guys all sound like whatever thick skin you are refering to. The third pic is that of a Victorian Obliqueden latifasciata. The males have the red/orange and yellow colouring and the greyish colour can become quite black when showing some aggression. Please don't waste any more time trying to argue this as I have one of them in my tank. I will try and get some more pics posted for you all to see and will also post the exact scientific name. Well done DanePatrick as you were right from the start.

thanks guys for backing me up on this one.
i may be young, but i do this for a living.
i don't know everything, but i do know a lot.

 

[Miles]

Wish I would of saw this thread earlier!!

I would of definately said Obliqudiens (or however you spell it).. the LFS here has had a tank of 30 juvies for about a year now.

 

[Scotty]

Stop guessing as here is the correct name of the fish and also some information on it.
Astatotilapia latifasciata.
Males have the red on their belly and females don't. The male will start to show this colour at between 1-1,5 inches. Mistankingly known as Haplichromis sp zebra Obliquidens, but these have actually died out in the Lake Victoria region. Considered critically endangered in the wild and are actually found in the two Lakes just to the North of Victoria, namely, Nawanpasa and Kyoga. Both are extremely shallow lakes with deepest depth being only 4-5 metres.These two lakes are joined during the rainy season by an swampy area, thus the same fish species. Considered the mbuna of the area and actually known as Mbipi(Mar-bee-pi).
Females are extremely good mothers and they will protect their fry for up to two months after release thus allowing them to be kept in the same tank as the rest. Ideal to keep i male together with 5-7 females. Fry start to show the black stripes at around 0,5 inches.

 

[straitjacketstar]

The last one is a Hap sp. thick skin (hap sp. 44) like stated above and the top is a tilapia buttikoferi like stated above as well. Not sure of the middle. Kind of looks like a P. socolofi mix.

Just so you know the tilapia buttikoferi get about 12in to 14in and they grow fast. Also in my experience all of the one that I have had killed smaller tankmates. So keep an eye on it as it grows.

Thanks to Honda you have your acurate ID's, c91x.

First is Tilapia buttikoferi.
http://www.cichlidforum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1442
No further argument.

Though you did not inquire about the second I will say it is either a very very poorly bed socolofi or socolofi hybrid. It should nt be bred either way.

A. latifasciata is wrong.
http://www.cichlidforum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1556
This fish's base color is white/silver, not grey/silver like the fish pictured. The red is also wrong. Fish pictured has red under the dorsal, the top half of the body and will develop even more with age. A latifasciata gets red only get red around the gill plate and pectorals, on the bottom half of it's body.
Haplochromis sp. "Thick Skin" is the correct answer.
http://www.cichlidforum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1546

Further, no one on this thread has posted a picture of a true A. nyassae.

Not that anything would come of it since none of the fish in question are Aulonocara.

 

[Scotty]

Sraitjacketstar you need to get yourself some glasses. The only one you have correct is the first pic. The second fish is definitely not anything remotely a socolofi. It is some sort of elongatus species, long thin bodied fish!
The third is most definitely not your thick skin but the fish I have identified. I have had one for some time now and when first purchased it was pale like the fish in the photo. There is definite orange above the yellow. A blind man can see that quite clearly.

 

[cichlidfinder]

I would first like to say: I thought we were all hobbyists try to help a guy out. This is the first board I've been to where people act this way. Maybe you guys like it this way.

Anyways back to the victorian in question. I was the first to say Hap. SP "44". I can see where the confussion can happen since these fish are closly related.

after doing some comparison I still have to go with Hap. SP "44"

If you look at Astatotilapia latifasciata

http://www.africancichlids.net/Victoria/Astatotilapia/A_latifasciata/gallery.htm

I see two things.

1 Astatotilapia latifasciata has two full bars on its side. The fish in question has three

2 The fish in question has red on its tail and ventral fins. Astatotilapia latifasciata should not have red on any fin.

Anyways the cool part is the care of these fish are the same. Maybe we can just wait till he colors up.

 

[straitjacketstar]

Sraitjacketstar you need to get yourself some glasses. The only one you have correct is the first pic. The second fish is definitely not anything remotely a socolofi. It is some sort of elongatus species, long thin bodied fish!
The third is most definitely not your thick skin but the fish I have identified. I have had one for some time now and when first purchased it was pale like the fish in the photo. There is definite orange above the yellow. A blind man can see that quite clearly.

"Long, thin bodied fish" - if you've ever seen one - would most certainly apply to juvenile socolofi. Any poorly bred or severely stressed socolofi may exhibit horizontal barring and even a vertical bar.
I've not excluded the possibility of P. elongatus as I've already stated, it's either a poor socolofi or a hybrid. socolofi x elongatus is definitely a possibility. I'd lean more towards a hybrid than a pure socolofi personally but since you insisted.

You can think A. latifasciata all you want. Nothing's gonna change the fact that the vic in question is not A. latifasciata.
cichilidfinder and Honda are correct in this situation. Hap. sp "Thick Skin" (sp. "44"). I can't see how anyone could further prove the argument as it's all layed out for everyone to see. Perhaps one last try?

Hap. sp. thick skin (aka sp. 44) may or may not exhibit red coloration. If and when it does it is on the upper half of the body.

Fish in question (if OP does not mind, if so I'll be happy to pull the photo)

Let's forget for a minute any fin coloration, body base color, barring, body shape and pay attention to the crappy and hastily drawn figure shall we:

Can't seem to get it to normal size but whatever. Should be simple enough to understand.

Now let's look at Astatotilapia latifasciata.
(following photos are not mine, all googled)

 

[Taz2478]

its still an Obliquiden
why fight on which one or even better, about time someone put pics with they words.
Or you can tell the person the name and they can search for themselves I know he/she said they gooled already but not correctly if they still didnt find info.

 

[straitjacketstar]

its still an Obliquiden

I won't say that's not true. That common name applies to both fish.
Info's all right there. If OP cares to research further all they need do is collect the 2 scientific names discussed for comparison in his/her thread.