CLOUDY WATER :(

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adamstv

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I have a 55 gallon tank with a spotted catfish.... 2 tinfoil barbs... a silver arowana... a baby largemouth bass... and a sailfin pleco, and i always seem to have cludy water... why is this i did a 50 percent water change today and STIll cloudy water... so bad sometimes that when i look in one side i cant even see the other side...:eek:

any tips

another question... how long does it freakin take to get rid of my ich... iv done eevry treatment
 
Welcome to MFK!!!

Aside from a 55 not being large enough for the fish on your list, what kind of filtration are you using? You just did a water change. When was your last one? Do you have a regular schedule for W/C and gravel washes? What foods are you feeding the tank? What decorations are in the tank? Water test results?
On the ich, what is "every treatment" that you've employed? Did you add salt to the tank and elevate the temperature to 84-85F? And maintain this treatment for a week to 10 days after all visible ich spots have disappeared?
The more detailed you are in your posts, the better the feedback. Otherwise, our members have to either guess or employ different means...

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Wow! Where to start? First off you cant mix the largemouth bass with your other fish! The largemouth bass is a native species and requires different water conditions. Second the Aro you have will out grow that tank in less than a year and requires a tank 4 times the size of your 55gallon tank. What the problem seems to be is that your over stocked and under filtered. I suggest taking the Aro back or selling it to someone who has the proper tank to house it, or just go buy a much bigger tank. Also, if your trating for ich its best that you have a proper sized hospital tank just for this. When treating with meds you want to make sure that there is no carbon present in your filters. Its easy to say that a lot of people that are new to the hobby go buy all the fish they can get there hands on without doing their reasearch first. Its a common mistake. Im glad your asking for advice now instead of 6 months down the road with even more problems like a expensive dead fish.
Its a easy fix, just have to do whats right and everything else will work out. Best of luck!
 
well i do know that soon i will need a new tank.... but for the time being i believe it should be fine with the barbs being about 3" and the cat fish as well the aro is about 5" and the bass as well.... as for the pleco hes tiny but i feed the bass and aro earth worms, fat heads and guppys..... the barbs and catfish seem to love the hikari sinking pellets, i try to do 50 percent a week.... and i have a hunk of drift wood and some sword leaf and other various plants in there.... i try and stir the gravel around a couple times a week for the " penguin bio wheel" to pick it up which brings me to my filtration.... i have the bio wheel that is rated to 70 gallons..

ON the ich... i first had an outbreak on my cat fish he had it bad to it ate his skin away and i took out my carbon and used "ridICH" ofr about a week and it went away and he grew his skin back.... then i introduced the pleco .... stupidly and didnt realise he had ich till ltr that day i was admiring him and he had two spots.... the next day i started seeing the "swarmers"... now they are everywear.... in the gravel and swimming around, no one else has it except the aro on his face i have raised the temp to 86 to eliminate all breeding of ich and speed up their life and have now tried using the ich dissolving tablets.... less spots on the arro but i still have a cloudy tank with swimming ich...:(
 
and also.... the bass seems fine... i mean they are the most widespread freshwater fishin the world.... iv seen them in 90 degree golf course lakes and frigin lakes in odahoe.. hes a baby that doesnt bother anyone.... he just eats alot.... the arro is still small also and i will be upgrading.... when the time comes
 
adamstv;548829; said:
... i will be upgrading.... when the time comes
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You have received advice from the fish tank god. There is none higher. Oddball sits isolated on a mountain top waiting for travelers who seek his wisdom. Yet you brushed it off.

You have too many piggies in too small of a pen, and you are feeding them too much corn.

Until you start testing your water, you will not see the true cause of the problem. A complete fresh water test kit is only $30. Also, your hang on filter can not keep up with the waste load from your fish and their feedings. You need to upgrade now. Filter filter filter, now now now.

And change your water change schedule for now to improve the water quality. Do 10-20% daily water changes rather than one big one once a week. When you do large changes, it stresses the fish. Stressed fish have weaker immune systems; a bad thing in an unhealthy tank.

You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
 
One more thing, the rule of thumb for Hang On Back (hob) filters is one inch of fish per gallon of water. This does not mean one inch of arrowana that is five inches long; nor for bass or what have you. This rule is for ONE INCH FISH. Five one inch arrowanas do not eat the same volume that a five inch arrowana does and they do not have the same waste loads.

A five inch arrowana is the equivalent to about thirty one inch arrowanas. Same with the bass, etc. I hope this helps you to see how over loaded your tank really is.

The one inch rule is to get you set up and out the door for the least money possible. The manufacturers know that as soon as you start having problems (when the fish exceed the filter capacity), you will be back with cash in hand.

You need to start looking for a larger tank with a sump and/or wet/dry filter.



p.s. WELCOME TO MFK!
 
OMFG can you say overloaded . with the fish you mentioned you need min 210gallon 265 or 300 would be much better . aro will outgrow that in 6 months :screwy: :screwy: :WHOA:
 
:iagree: Totally with everyone! We are not tring to be mean, we all just look out for the best intrest of the fish. We have all made mistakes in one way or another! Most mistakes are poor fishkeeping practice and lack of expirence, not to mention the ocassional person that doesnt want to believe what they hear and refuse the advice given:screwy: . In no time at all you will have dead fish, thats a given. If you refuse to take our advice and take imediate responsibility to change your fishkeeping practices there is nothing else that we can do. You have the best advice here hands down. These guys have decades upon decades of wisdom, knowledge, and expirence to offer so its best to listen, learn, and do the right thing. I guarantee if you do theses things you can save your fish and become a much better fishkeeper.
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