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chiroken

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96Lx24Dx31H, 300 gallon african cichlid tank with 72Lx22Dx20H 115 gallon sump. I'm taking this design off of what the previous owner had used, with some modifications. Previous stand showed warping on the outer edges of the plywood inbetween the 2x4 legs as the horizontal 2x6 ran on the inside of the legs. The weight of course is primarily on the outer tank edges. To keep the tank stand narrow as possible, but to have enough room for the sump to fit, the 2x4's need to go on the outside of the 2x6. The end product will be a hardwood finished stand, hood and matching end cabinets with shelving above.
This is what I've come up with so far as the first phase, creating the initial shell of the stand. 2x6 horizontally running inside of the 2x4 legs. 2x2's running at the base of the legs to create sump platform, also on inside of legs. Stand depth is 25", leaving 22 1/4" inside legs to fit 22" wide sump tank. I could run 2x4 cross braces front to back between the 2x6's if I want, the current stand didn't (reef tank with 750lbs of live rock in main tank). Top of stand and lower 2x2 deck to be covered in plywood (3/4" probably)
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They I am planning on adding a 2nd 2x6 glued and screwed between each leg front and back. This should prevent the ply from warping due to tank weight. Add a 2nd 2x2 between the legs at the bottom as well (front only). This functions (along with the 2nd 2x6's) to create a flush surface that I can then face with hardwood and fasten doors to etc. Just a single 2x6 and 2x2 on the ends are needed to make it flush. You can see in the next diagram where I've shaded in the 2nd set of 2x6's.
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The plan is to then build matching cabinets with shelving units above on either end of the tank. The cabinets probably 18" deep with the shelving units probably 12" deep. Should give nice change of depth. These would be 30-36" wide on either side giving a total width of 13-14'. The end units will run floor to ceiling and need to be removable to be able to remove the sump. Then finished end panels of the tank stand will also need to be removable for the same reason.
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I have yet to figure out the canopy. Thinking of having it go from tank right to ceiling, lower section to house lights, upper section to be open "box" cubbies. Any concerns/challenges/improvements you see with this design?
 
chiroken,

I'm designing a stand for the same situation basically. I have the same size display tank but using a slightly smaller sump. I am in the process of designing the stand using some free software called PTC Creo Express and so far it is working great. FOr my stand I"m using either 2x4's or 2x6's on the bottom section of the frame as well for rigidity and weight distribution. I am glueing and screwing for all joint and considering using the metal framing brackets used on houses for the major joints. I am also planning on using some 2x6's (or doubled up 2x4's)for the vertical supports as well to prevent any swaying. I'm gonna set mine up as freshwater as well and will have about 200 lbs in rock in it making the total weight around 2700lbs that the stand has to support. That will get distributed to the vertical sections and I don't think the single 2x4 for the vertical section will support that weight. This was probably why the plywood pieces were bowing so badly in your case. 2x4's and 2x6's are relatively cheap and I would and some extra vertical support to the design that you have now. Below is a picture of what I'm expecting the finished product to be but it will be slightly scaled down. I pulled this off of MFK somewhere, I can't remember where. I hope this helps a little. I will post a link to another thread for a guy doing a 300 gal acrylic tank stand build and his looks awesome.
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Thanks for the link, great thread. I am wishing my sump was not as deep front to back (22") so I could change my stand design to use simpler vertical supports. Don't know how I could ever flog a 6' sump tank and then replace it with an 18" deep 90 gallon or something. And the picture you posted is very similar to what I want to build.
 
You could disassemble the sump and cut the glass to size and then put the sump back together for the size that you need it to be. It's a little more work but gets the size you want. Look on youtube for glass cutting techniques if you're curious.
 
Didn't think of this option. Would still prefer to modify the stand to accomodate the 22" tank width. I just re-sealed a 45g and to remove all baffles, take apart, cut, re-assemble and re-install baffles in this 6 foot tank would not be something I would want to do!
You could disassemble the sump and cut the glass to size and then put the sump back together for the size that you need it to be. It's a little more work but gets the size you want. Look on youtube for glass cutting techniques if you're curious.
 
I take it you've already got the tank? Buying a wider tank seems like a far better option than a narrower sump!! ;)

Oh sure!!! Why not go to 480g, it's only 180 more than 300! :grinno::grinno: If money was no object I'd have a whole wall full of exotic fish but that's not going to happen. 2 wks before I found this tank with sump tank used on craigslist I had the exact dimension tank priced as a custom build: $5100 with tax! Was very strange that this one came available right after that. Got the tank with the sump and its pump for $800. Only 8' tank I've seen in probably 2 yrs I've been looking for tanks. Rare around here this big. A neighbouring town's LFS has a 10' rreef tank and mine is the 2nd biggest I've ever seen around here.
 
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