Thank you guys for not bashing me for using com names still,Im workin on learning all the real names,just got alot goin on,kinda miss the days when i could sit around and study this stuff more,ill always try to look up the proper names if im asking something that i think you might not get.Used to be on a foreign tarantula site and some ppl were way over board,I love learning the scientific names,but if i couldnt find it these ppl would get so caddy or honestly just pissy. you guys seem to overlook my lack of knowlage and focus on the care of the fish.Anyway i do see the importance of scientific names and hold great interest in them but thanks to all for keepin this a somewhat safe site,seen some agresion on a few threads,kind of enjoyed it,after all we do like cichlids,not realy the most peacefull fish alive.Dang i must have been bored.sorry.:lipsseale