I have a tsn (3 inches or so) that I'd like to move into another tank. Problem, this task was treated with copper safe for an anchor worm infestation about a month ago (big fancy goldfish, 45 gallon). This is currently the best choice of my tanks in the next phase of grow out for this little guy. He's way too small to harm the goldfish, and the goldfish is too slow to bother him atm. Are small amounts of copper residue going to be harmful to this little guy?
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I've never used Copper meds but recently was reading up on them as a means to get rid of snails. The reading, YouTube, etc. tell me to avoid copper meds if possible because they claim to "never" be washed out completely from a treated tanks or system. It surprised me but I have no reason to doubt the professionals.
All in all, if your fancy goldfish are okay, the TSN should be too. My understanding though that copper can and does have long long term effects, which are bad. Short term, some publications said, there are possible good effects and some vendors of live fish use copper in their vendor systems and avoid some diseases and sell visibly upbeat and well-doing fish but the fish had been compromised by the copper meds and will wither away much before their time. That's what they say.
Anchor worms are killed very well and safely by Dimilin X, no need for copper.
I've never used Copper meds but recently was reading up on them as a means to get rid of snails. The reading, YouTube, etc. tell me to avoid copper meds if possible because they claim to "never" be washed out completely from a treated tanks or system. It surprised me but I have no reason to doubt the professionals.
All in all, if your fancy goldfish are okay, the TSN should be too. My understanding though that copper can and does have long long term effects, which are bad. Short term, some publications said, there are possible good effects and some vendors of live fish use copper in their vendor systems and avoid some diseases and sell visibly upbeat and well-doing fish but the fish had been compromised by the copper meds and will wither away much before their time. That's what they say.
Anchor worms are killed very well and safely by Dimilin X, no need for copper.
I have used copper before, while it kills other living organisms, it does not kill fishes of size greater than 2 inch, specifically if it is just residue as you mentioned.
I couldn't find the dimilin. And I used the stuff made for anchor worm and nothing, literally nothing else worked. Even using copper, I was still picking worms off this gold fish for 3 weeks. I swear, I've been doing this fish tank stuff for 25 years and I've never had something as ridiculously maddening as these worms.
Do you have any Picture of the anchor worms im interested in this parasitic nature of the worm what it looks like maybe its not an anchor worm though but know its 99.99 chance it is lol
Ive seen potassium permanganate dips for bigger fish along with salt and waiting out the cycle
duanes
whats your experience with this
Where did you look for the dimilin x suggested by thebiggerthebetter? I was able to get hits off amazon, ebay some stores etc LFS and chain pet stores are useless in my area for specific medications
maybe give it a shot again as its been a very hot summer and it is possible the stuff you purchased was cooked and expired? Those things do happen in storage etc before arriving to the customer?
heres my very first result off amazon
Ive seen potassium permanganate dips for bigger fish along with salt and waiting out the cycle
duanes
whats your experience with thisWhere did you look for the dimilin x suggested by thebiggerthebetter? I was able to get hits off amazon, ebay some stores etc LFS and chain pet stores are useless in my area for specific medications
maybe give it a shot again as its been a very hot summer and it is possible the stuff you purchased was cooked and expired? Those things do happen in storage etc before arriving to the customer?
heres my very first result off amazon
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I had a couple wild fish come in with Lernae (anchor worm).
After removing the parasites by hand, I treated the tank with salt (3ppt salinity (3lbs per 100 gallons)).
Although the saline treatment didn't kill the adult Lernea, it prevented young from reinfecting the tank.
Anchor worms are a nightmare…I just dealt with it one of my tanks. First time in decades and was the worst thing to deal with. Couldn’t find Dimilin-X so used Hikari CyroPro but it did nothing. Its supposed to be 3 weekly treatment but I was at it for months. Picking off the adults and adding a massive about of salt finally cured it.
Also, many LFS run copper constantly in their saltwater fish section and the fish look great until you bring them home.
Also, many LFS run copper constantly in their saltwater fish section and the fish look great until you bring them home.
Small amounts over a long period of time can be harmful. Hard to predict. Get a copper test kit and check the levels with a test kit. If levels are present then remove substrate and add carbon. Don’t add any substrate back. Retest the tank till undetected that’s if u have no other choice to use the tank. Carbon and water changes should be able to get it out.
The pictures shared are what they look like. I spent so much time with this fish in a net inside the tank with tweezers. It's gross, and you can literally feel them ripping out of the poor fish. I lost 2 to it and the only guy left is this dude. My son has a love for the fat goldfish.
Yeah, when the infestation was bad and a bunch of anchor worms got pulled, the fish had sores everywhere so I treated with Kanaplex first. Then did a large water change and added ton of salt over time. Finally got rid of those worms