Could my dojo loach have had a seizure or pinched nerve?

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bigmamafish

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I am pasting in here information from a thread I started on another forum, that fully describes the details. My dojo seems to have recovered, but it's a real mystery why this happened.

All three dojos have been perfectly healthy until yesterday afternoon. That's when I suddenly noticed my middle male scooting upside-down along the substrate, struggling unsuccessfully to right himself, and breathing laboriously in the process. He would open his mouth very wide in the yawning gesture, and his gills would jut out sharply when he did so. He would roll over onto his side for a split second, then back onto his back again. Never could completely upright himself.

Prior to this, I did witness one bit of uncharacteristic behavior: He totally ignored his O-Nips, while the others went crazy over them, as usual. He just laid motionless in the far corner of the tank when I fed these, but was completely upright at that time, in his usual normal position.

Now, this is a real mystery, as my water quality is excellent and he shows no sign of any blemishes on his skin, and his fins are intact.

Is it possible for a dojo to get so stressed out it can have a stroke or heart attack? I try to provide conditions that help them feel more secure in their environment, such as subdued lighting with lots of cover and place where they can hide out and / or rest. They are in with peaceful fishes.

I do notice that when I have to vacuum the substrate, this particularly stresses them out. Two of them always bury themselves in the gravel at that time, and I have to be particularly careful with the siphon -- I always flush them out before vacumming, and if they re-bury themselves, I flush them out again -- for their safety.

I can't figure out what could have caused a swim-bladder issue, which this appears to be, when no disease is present in the tank.

The only other possibility I can think of is maybe he swallowed something he couldn't pass.

My water parameters are: Ammonia, 0; nitrites, 0; nitrates, 7-10 ppm.

I now have him in a bucket of tank water with an airstone, and he is being treated with half-dosages of the only medications I currently have on hand that have been touted as safe -- Melafix and Pimafix.

Any insights into this? It was very, very sudden!
 
And, here is the update:

I checked on him last night, and he had righted himself in the treatment bucket, and was laying at the bottom of it. Because he was still, I couldn't tell if he was still alive or not. I covered the bucket, leaving a tiny slit for air to enter.

A few minutes ago, I checked again. He is not only upright, but swimming actively, with no signs of ever having been in distress, except that he is quite a bit paler, due to the stress of being moved.

He was swimming so actively, and in a normal position, that he was all over the bucket, and swam to the surface several times, just as he did in the tank, and just as all dojos do.

I have transferred him back into the tank, where he is laying upright on the substrate. Still pale, but I assume he will darken up again once he settles down.

This is very mysterious! I'm happy he has recovered, or appears to have recovered, but am still baffled as to what caused it.

One thing does come to mind: Can dojos experience epileptic seizures? Perhaps that's what he was having in the tank, and has since recovered from it.

If this happens again, I'll be leaning toward epilepsy as a likely cause.

If anyone else has any other insights, please share. This was weird!
 
I'm very happy about it, too. My dojos are my favorite fishies.

I am also considering that maybe he seized due to escaping electrical current in the tank. However, that seems unlikely, since it's a coldwater tank and no heater is present.

I do have an external pump hooked to an airline with an airstone that bubbles inside the tank. When I do water changes and / or gravel vacs, I rarely unplug this external pump. I have never felt any tingling sensation, which I would expect to feel if there was electrical current in the water. I have an anti-siphon valve in the airline so water cannot back-siphon into this pump.

There's also an AC50 hob power filter, but I do unplug this when I clean. Other times, when I'm merely rearranging a thing or two in the aquascape, I don't turn off this filter. But I still haven't felt any tingling.

The only other piece of equipment hooked up to electrical power is the tank light, and this rests on the glass top and is not exposed to the open water.

I have no way of knowing whether escaping electrical current might have shocked my little dojo, but I would think my other fish would be showing signs of distress if that was the cause of his trouble.

Are there any dojo experts here who can lend more insight?

Thanks -- Bigmamafish
 
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