Cr. scottii from Argentina

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Marcos Montes

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I've finally been able to watch closely these two beauties of mine lately. They arrived home (bought at U$ 1.50 each, extremely cheap for they're endemic here in Argentina) on July 20, and took nearly a month to show a bit of themselves -always recluded in their hideouts. The fifteen feeder fish I tossed in lived for very long with them without diminishing in number. Those first two weeks I gave them some bloodworms too. They reluctantly ate a bit of these, and there was some little poop, extremely thin here and there.
When they finished their quarantine I moved them on to a 120 liter tank with 2 hideouts. They are now 5/6 inches long and eat everything, from feeder fish to bloodworms, beefheart and ghost shrimp. No pellets, however. They share their tank with two SA cichlids, two Australoheros facetum, a common species in their habitat. Although they don't like to share a hideout, the sight of each other doesn't drive them crazy for the moment, and they just nibble at each other if they venture into the other's place.
Crenicichla scottii's suborbital lines are made of transversal dashes slightly diverted to the ventral area. One of mine shows three, the other two, from what they earned their names, Two and Three (Dos and Tres in Spanish). Dos is much more tame than Tres and has already even taken food from my hand. They look very healthy and though they don't display many colours like Xingu, etc, they look good to me. They don't have a humeral notch but a bright yellow ocellus is present on their caudal fin. They also have spots distributed all along their bodies like the punctata. In sunlight they shine with iridiscent greens and blues on their backs and operculus.

Unfortunately my camera is out of order and I couldn't take pictures so far. They'll be posted soon!

Marcos
 
That is so cool. I can't wait for pix :popcorn:
 
Cool for $1.5 U.S thats extramlly cheap any where good score
 
yep, well, they live exactly in the area where I do, and so it's kind of "net them out". There are local fairs where you can get them very cheap. And they are notathat popular in the hobby. Mainly because it's so difficult to have more than one per tank, and they're predators. But thay can coexist with other Argentinian round-shaped cichlids I have, like Australoheros facetum and Gymnogeophagus meridionalis (Siete colores), so common here you can get a "helping" of 8 juvies for a dollar.
 
Hi Marcos ~ it's great to hear from you - way south of the border for us Americanos. Must be nice to get local Pikes (and others) cheap, and even catch yourself!!!! Thx. for your story about Dos & Tres, sounds like they're doing well in a 50 gal. (?) tank with some Heros + Gymnogeo's. The Argentine meridionalis are quite colorful - correct?
We currently have a nice Scotti, 4 to 4.5" male in a community tank. From Uruguay via FishFarm USA. WE'll have to compare photos of our Scotti's, from two differant areas. We look forward to seeing some pics, your description of them is very thorough - sound like spotted shining beauties. WELCOME to MFK!!!!
 
Hi MTN Pike, thanx for your answer. Yes, the tank where I have them is more or less a 40 gallon one. I have another ready in case they suddenly don't like each other any more. They share their place only with two Australoheros facetum. I have Gymnogeophagus meridionalis (very colourful, by the way) in a differente tank with two Callichthys callichthys. All my fish are native.
I don't think there'll be many differences between our two scottiis. Uruguay is so very close and similar to Beunos Aires geographically speaking. But anyway, I'll post pics asap.
 
Hi guys!
Nice to have one more from South America!!
About the scottii;
Some of the populations are similar, but not all of them...all the scottii from Rio Uruguay are the same sp., but there is other "scottii" from other basins.
Both sides of the Rio Uruguay (argentinian and uruguayan side) looks similar...but not the rest of the country, and I am not so sure if the scottiis from Rio Uruguay are the same species as the scottiis from east, centraleast and north Uruguay?
Anyway...the scottii is not endemic for La Plata basin as Ploeg (I think?) thought.
And another "problem" we have is the G.meridionalis....the holotype is from the city of Bagé, Rio Negro basin, Brasil, 70 klm. from the border with Uruguay (northeast Uruguay) and the "true" meridionalis looks very different from the species from Rio Uruguay and La Plata basin.

:) Felipe
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Does it look like this?

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