Crawfish newbie, help with mated female

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Destroyer551

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Hey all, I just captured 3 crawfish from my local creek, almost got bit by an alligater too....Anyways, the moment I put them in two crays touched and the male immediatly pounced on the female, wow, the moment I put them in my 10 gallon tank they mate, lol. Other than that, I was thinking of moving my female craw into a 7 gallon tank, bad thing is there's a baby bass in there but I don't have another cycled tank where I can keep her alone. Do you think it will eat the bass? It's not a very big cray, maybe 3 inches and small claws. Can you guys give me craw/crayfish care info? How to care for the babies, etc. I'm not sure what this species is, but it's..well...red. :D I'll get a pic up later of them.
 
I would be more concerned with the bass eating the cray...

7g is way too small. The babies are cannibalistic if there isn't enough room. If you're going to allow her to breed, I would go no smaller than a 20g. 40g would be much better.

This is, of course, if what you caught is the typical red variant... not some dwarf species.

Crays are pretty darn hardy and they'll eat almost anything (including each other!)
 
Well, depending on the species. You may not have anything to worry about for several reasons (in the short run):

1.) Not all crayfish will berry in captivity. They all seem to mate, but some require very specific environmental replications to induce them into berrying, and the average joe doesn't often do this for crays. (these are usually temperature changes that require buying chillers, etc)

2.) Not all crayfish are aggressive, or even prefer meat matter. So, depending on the species, you may have a passive or more herbivorous species (all crays are omnivores, but most lean toward herbivore or carnivore to some extent), that can be housed with tankmates.

3.) The average time from berrying to having crayfish offspring is about a month, so get cycling another tank or two, while providing her a lot of hiding spots/cover in the current tank because I don't know much about bass, but a lot of fish will enjoy picking off the eggs from the cray. She'll need lots of goods places to hide away and not be bothered (also, once berried don't be worried about declined or not existent appetite, females will often stop eating while berried).


Now, for the long run you're going to have several issues:

1.) Eventually that bass is going to eat the crayfish. It's part of it's natural diet.

2.) Save dwarf species, it really should be 10gal/per crayfish as a minimum, unless you're used to keeping crayfish and are knowledgeable of individual species characteristics and requirements (i.e. some can easily be housed in smaller spaces or in groups, while others cannot).

3.) You're going to need additional tanks once you have babies because you'll need to remove the mother (she'll start to eat her offspring after a bit). And because as the offspring grow, they go through naturally cannibalistic stages and will prey upon other siblings (the extent of this varies depending on the species).

4.) Once you have offspring, you'll need to provide them with plenty of cover (plants are a good idea for additional cover) and start them on a varied, but protein heavy diet. They'll digest proteins more easily until they grow a bit, but still provide them some other nutrient sources sporadically (plants, algae pellets, eggshells, etc).

Other than that, it's really species specific info and you'll need to ID your crays for that. Anyway, good luck and enjoy. Crays are awesome and babies are adorable to watch grow up!
 
Thanks for the info, but I think I made a mistake! :irked:
A few hours after mating I moved her into the 7 gallon, but the bass being only 1 inch actually started to nibble on her legs. So I moved her back, I'm nooo cray expert, but is it possible that she can lose the sperm pack???
She isn't berried yet but is actively looking for a place to burrow, I'll add some play sand later. If fertalization is internal, how long till she becomes berried??

Also, I have plenty of 20 gallon longs, I just have to get them cycled.
 
I added some play sand and more hiding spots, and the male either was fighting with with the female or tried to mate again, not sure. Need some feedback here guys!
 
Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later, heh. Don't worry too much .... legs, claws and antennas will grow back with each successive molt. So, light damage and lost limbs will be regenerated.

Anyway, I don't know about losing a sperm plug but I know they don't always take or aren't always good/fertile/etc. She could probably lose or remove it, too, I would suppose. But after mating, it should take a few days (or up to a few weeks) for her to berry. It's different for each species, each individual and each set of tank conditions. But they all generally fall under the few days to a few weeks realm (if you haven't seen anything by a month you'll need to reintroduce male to female).

Also, you'll need to find another home for the female or male, unless you want to wait on having her berried. If he is trying to mate, and not fight, he's just going to keep replacing his own sperm plug over and over and over again until they are removed from each other.

As for mating or fighting though, pretty easy to tell apart in most cases:

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Ignore me in this photo, lol, but look at the crayfish. That's an aggressive posture... claws up or extended and the front of the body raised up. Crays that are fighting with approach each other in similar positions and then start trying to pinch, push, wrestle and body bump with each other until someone loses a limb, tail flicks away or goes into submissive behavior.

When mating, the male should just be approaching the female in a normal stance and then quickly manipulating her so that they end up in this position rather quickly:

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The female also usually freezes pretty quickly in this process and doesn't do much movement. So if he's approaching her (even if his intent is to only mate) and she behaves aggressively rather than submissively, it's going to trigger him to fight.
 
Crayfish sex has always looked more like rape to me.
 
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