Crenicichla wallacei help

[Mythic Figment]

Does anyone have a picture of what an adult of these looks like? Google is of no help this time because half the pictures are mislabeled unless there are multiple different color morphs of this pike.


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[darth pike]

First, it's Cr. wallacii (hates Wetspot for using the mispelling).

And yes, there are three color morphs but we don't see two of them here in the states. The only one we see is the Colombian form, and two other species are sold under the same name as well so it does get confusing.

They look pretty much like other dwarves, except the female has orange rimmed ocelli instead of red. Of course, some have seen color shifting in the dorsal so it's possible that the colombian form and the other dwarves in the area are actually the same species.

Only have bad pics of the male:

 

[Mythic Figment]

First, it's Cr. wallacii (hates Wetspot for using the mispelling).

And yes, there are three color morphs but we don't see two of them here in the states. The only one we see is the Colombian form, and two other species are sold under the same name as well so it does get confusing.

They look pretty much like other dwarves, except the female has orange rimmed ocelli instead of red. Of course, some have seen color shifting in the dorsal so it's possible that the colombian form and the other dwarves in the area are actually the same species.

Only have bad pics of the male:

Thanks for the correction. I like to use accurate genus and species names too.

Thanks for the info as well. Definitely very useful.

I have seen a blue dwarf pike (often labelled regani) that I have some interest in. Do you know if the pike pictured below is a regani? And if so, is it just a breeding dress or is this a permanent adult coloration?


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[darth pike]

That male looks to me like sp. Xingu Dwarf, which used to be considered a regani morph but was broken off to it's own species status (which very well might happen to other regani morphs like tapajos as well). I haven't seen a "classic" regani in years.

I did find bad pics of mine showing a little female I bought with the white ring ocelli (thinking it might be an sp. Orinoco Dwarf) that started to change to orange:

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[daphilster08]

You found some wallacii for sale?

I'm setting up a fish room and dwarf pikes are one of my main focuses. I am trying to get my hands on some C. notophthalmus.

Glad to see some more people interested in dwarf pikes.

 

[Mythic Figment]

That male looks to me like sp. Xingu Dwarf, which used to be considered a regani morph but was broken off to it's own species status (which very well might happen to other regani morphs like tapajos as well). I haven't seen a "classic" regani in years.

I did find bad pics of mine showing a little female I bought with the white ring ocelli (thinking it might be an sp. Orinoco Dwarf) that started to change to orange:

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My biggest obstacle with pikes is find species with enough color to keep me interested. I love my lent, but they are said to be one of the most colorful pikes and you just can't compare the colors of pikes to those of many other SA cichlids. I do really enjoy the predatory behavior my lent gives me.


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[Mythic Figment]

You found some wallacii for sale?

I'm setting up a fish room and dwarf pikes are one of my main focuses. I am trying to get my hands on some C. notophthalmus.

Glad to see some more people interested in dwarf pikes.

Kind of. I found Crenicichla sp. aff. wallacii from Wetspot out in Oregon. So they might not be true wallacii, but I figured getting a decent picture of a wallacii would give me a good idea of what they would look like when full grown.


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[Heyguy74]

Thanks for the correction. I like to use accurate genus and species names too.

Thanks for the info as well. Definitely very useful.

I have seen a blue dwarf pike (often labelled regani) that I have some interest in. Do you know if the pike pictured below is a regani? And if so, is it just a breeding dress or is this a permanent adult coloration?


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Wow. That's a very ice looking pike. Now I want some. LOL

 

[Mythic Figment]

Wow. That's a very ice looking pike. Now I want some. LOL

Right there with ya. If I could find some of those pikes, I would take as many as I could get ahold of. Not many colorful pikes that don't demand a large amount of space and also won't brutally murder everything they are kept with and/or kill each other off. I thought about compressiceps at one point, but everything I have read points me to believe they are nasty dwarf pikes that will just kill each other off. And in order to get them to pair, I would need at least a 6' tank, which seems ridiculous for a couple of 4-5" fish! LOL


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[darth pike]

I can't say I've seen sp. Xingu Dwarf on a list since either '08 or '09, though it's possible they are being sold as regani.

We've seen 3 different pikes sold by Wetspot under Wallacii ... the Colombian variant (I contend it's a sp. wallacii since there are no connecting habitats between the Rio Branco and Rio Orinoco, but was ID'd by Oliver Lucanus whom knows far more about fish than I ever will as wallacii). I have also picked up a sp. Irinidae Dwarf and someone else on this forum has gotten sp. Orinoco Dwarf from them as well through aquabid as wallacii. It's kind of like geos or apistos, several species sold under one name so it can be fun to figure out which one it is.

I wish we would see some of the other dwarves, particulary urosema and the tiny 2.5" heckelii.